Benchellali, Mourad, interview 1 - short clip - HowtoFightRadicalIslam
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(Mourad speaks in foreign language) | 0:03 | |
Translator | I think that what matters today in relation | 0:06 |
to democracies is that they must be built | 0:09 | |
on law, on justice, not on moral judgment. | 0:12 | |
It's important, | 0:16 | |
it means that laws cannot be based on the | 0:17 | |
statement that so-and-so is bad. | 0:19 | |
The only right question to ask is, | 0:21 | |
does he have the right to do this, or doesn't he? | 0:24 | |
I'll give you a concrete example. | 0:26 | |
Now in France, people say the problem isn't with jihadists, | 0:28 | |
the problem is with radical Islam. | 0:32 | |
There is this concept that didn't exist until now | 0:35 | |
that is being called radical Islam. | 0:38 | |
That is an Islam that would be bad, | 0:40 | |
that wouldn't be compatible with a Republic. | 0:42 | |
And people say, that's the enemy, the true enemy. | 0:45 | |
But I think that by doing so, | 0:48 | |
we only make the problem worse. | 0:50 | |
I mean, we may not agree on our values with other people, | 0:51 | |
but the question remains, | 0:54 | |
is this person allowed to think that way, | 0:56 | |
or must we impose one same way of thinking on everybody? | 0:58 | |
Even when it isn't dangerous? | 1:02 | |
You cannot force people to all think the same way, | 1:04 | |
you cannot attack people for their thoughts. | 1:07 | |
You cannot tell people, this is the way you must think. | 1:09 | |
Is it dangerous or not? | 1:13 | |
That's all that matters. | 1:14 | |
And I say this because radicalization, or even radical Islam | 1:15 | |
for example, it's just ideas. | 1:19 | |
And we must fight ideas with other ideas. | 1:21 | |
We change people's minds by engaging with them, | 1:25 | |
not by forcing them. | 1:27 | |
This is by way of saying that you cannot change | 1:29 | |
the world with a show of force. | 1:31 | |
You can change it with politics and with dialogue. | 1:33 | |
And today most States have decided to change things | 1:38 | |
with a show of force. | 1:41 | |
And that's how come we won't find a solution. | 1:42 | |
I believe this is our problem today. | 1:46 | |
We say we're going to fight a war | 1:48 | |
in order to bring democracy, but you have to show | 1:50 | |
that democracy is the best option, | 1:53 | |
instead of bringing it by force. | 1:55 |
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