Mendez, Juan - short clip - GuardsDontCount
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| (pencil scratching) | 0:00 | |
| - | So when we talk about meaningful social contact, | 0:03 |
| we exclude contact with guard. | 0:06 | |
| Many states, including the United States, | 0:08 | |
| can come back and say, | 0:09 | |
| what do you mean solitary confinement? | 0:12 | |
| There's somebody brings them their food. | 0:14 | |
| They also have medical doctors come and examine them. | 0:15 | |
| The guards are, you know, | 0:19 | |
| keeping track on them all the time. | 0:21 | |
| And what the Nelson Mandela rules say is, you know, | 0:23 | |
| the contact has to be with other inmates | 0:27 | |
| with, you know, people who they relate to | 0:30 | |
| and not in an adversarial way. | 0:33 | |
| So prison personnel don't count for this purposes. | 0:37 | |
| And this question of being able to yell | 0:43 | |
| through some slit in the door, you know, | 0:45 | |
| it's a ridiculous argument. | 0:51 | |
| I mean, you're still isolated, in fact, | 0:53 | |
| because you yell because you're isolated, so. | 0:54 | |
| And there's also, and I think this was used in Guantanamo, | 1:00 | |
| the military rules on interrogation, not on detention, | 1:05 | |
| allow for what the rules call separation of an inmate. | 1:10 | |
| And they allow for up to 30 days, but renewable, | 1:14 | |
| and it's a technique to soften up the prisoner | 1:20 | |
| so he will talk. | 1:23 | |
| And that I firmly believe that's a form of coercion | 1:26 | |
| and it's impermissible. | 1:31 | |
| Even if it's not waterboarding, | 1:32 | |
| it's not electric shock, | 1:37 | |
| it's not beating somebody to a pulp, | 1:40 | |
| it's still coercion. | 1:45 | |
| And it's impermissible in international law. | 1:46 |
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