Charlene P. Kammerer - "Sometimes We Need to Be Sick" (May 17, 1981)

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-	Coming to you live from the Duke Chapel,	0:06
	it's The Service of Worship on May 17th, 1981.	0:08
	(serene organ music)	0:23
	(faint speaking)	1:31
	(serene organ music)	1:45
	(uplifting choral music)	1:54
	(solemn organ and choral music)	6:05
	(uplifting organ and choral music)	9:59
	(serene organ music)	11:54
	(serene choral music)	12:53
	(solemn organ music)	15:55
	(solemn choral music)	16:49
	(uplifting organ music)	18:01
	(uplifting choral music)	18:39
-	On behalf of Duke University	22:11
	and as a Minister of Jesus Christ,	22:12
	I greet you in the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.	22:16
	But if I may, I greet you with the words	22:20
	of Apostle Paul found in his letters	22:24
	to the New Testament Churches.	22:26
	"Grace to you and peace from God our Father	22:29
	"and the Lord Jesus Christ.	22:34
	"That's not the kind of peace that means the absence of war.	22:38
	"It's not simply peace of mind.	22:42
	"It's not even the peace of the dead.	22:45
	"This is that dividing peace in your heart of hearts	22:49
	"that comes when you know that at the very center	22:54
	"of the universe, there is toward you,	22:56
	"grace, mercy, steadfast love.	22:59
	"Grace to you and peace from God our Father	23:04
	"and the Lord Jesus Christ."	23:09
	Such grace invites us, brothers and sisters,	23:12
	to confess our sins.	23:14
	Let us pray together.	23:17
	Oh Lord, do you see us as hypocrites	23:20
	while we see ourselves as righteous?	23:25
	Do you see us like tombs covered with whitewash?	23:29
	Do you know us as legalists who lack love?	23:33
	Do you find us neglecting justice	23:38
	and worrying about inconsequential rituals of worship?	23:40
	Do you see us obsessed with keeping minor religious laws	23:45
	but unwilling to help those in need?	23:50
	If we are blind guides, pretending Christians,	23:54
	self-righteous souls, shake us with reproof and rebuke gods	23:58
	until we awaken to our condition and repent.	24:04
	Create in us pure hearts and the right spirit	24:09
	so that we may see you more clearly	24:13
	and serve you more nearly.	24:16
	Amen.	24:19
	(solemn organ music)	24:21
	Let the word of God be our insurance of pardon.	25:03
	God so loved the world that He gave His only son.	25:06
	That whoever believes in Him will not perish	25:10
	but have everlasting life.	25:15
	Let us give thanks for God is good	25:20
	and God's love is everlasting.	25:23
	(congregation murmuring)	25:27
	Amen.	25:41
	We welcome all of you to this service of worship today.	25:45
	We especially want to welcome the choir	25:49
	that comes from Elon College.	25:51
	Thank you choir.	25:53
	And may we recognize, especially,	25:55
	Professor James H. Glenn, the director,	25:58
	and Dr. Walter Westover.	26:01
	We are pleased that they have come to add	26:04
	to our worship today and already they have blessed us.	26:06
	The preacher today is Reverend Charlene Kammerer,	26:13
	assistant minister to the university.	26:18
	I'm sure you will hear her gladly.	26:21
	Her topic is different than that which is listed.	26:25
	She is speaking to us on this subject,	26:28
	sometimes we need to be sick.	26:32
	Sometimes we need to be sick.	26:36
	We're glad you're here.	26:41
	Thanks be to God for this place.	26:44
	Thanks be to God for this Sabbath day.	26:47
	Thanks be to God for each one of you.	26:49
-	Let us pray.	27:02
	Oh Lord our God, who by the entrance of your word,	27:05
	gives light onto the soul.	27:08
	Pour down upon us the spirit of wisdom and understanding.	27:10
	That being taught by you and holy scriptures,	27:15
	we may receive with faith the words of eternal life	27:18
	and be made wise unto salvation	27:22
	through Jesus Christ our Lord.	27:25
	Amen.	27:27
	The Epistle lesson this morning is from Romans 8:14-28.	27:29
	"For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.	27:37
	"For you did not receive the spirit of slavery to fall back	27:42
	"into fear, but you have received the Spirit of sonship.	27:45
	"When we cry Abba, Father, it is the Spirit himself	27:50
	"bearing witness with our spirit	27:54
	"that we are children of God.	27:57
	"And if children, then heirs, heirs of God	28:00
	"and fellow heirs with Christ, provided we suffer with him	28:04
	"in order that we may also be glorified with him.	28:09
	"I consider that the sufferings of this present time	28:14
	"are not worth comparing with the glory	28:17
	"that is to be revealed to us.	28:20
	"For the creation awaits with eager longing	28:22
	"for the revealing of the sons of God.	28:25
	"For the creation was subjected to futility,	28:28
	"not of its own will, but by the will of him	28:31
	"who subjected it, in hope because the creation itself	28:34
	"will be set free from its bondage to decay	28:38
	"and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God.	28:41
	"We know that the whole creation has been groaning	28:46
	"in travail together until now.	28:48
	"And not only the creation, but we ourselves,	28:51
	"who have the first fruits of the Spirit,	28:55
	"groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons,	28:58
	"the redemption of our bodies.	29:01
	"For in this hope we are saved.	29:04
	"For in this hope we were saved.	29:07
	"Now hope that is seen is not hope.	29:09
	"For who hopes for what he sees?	29:13
	"But if we hope for what we do not see,	29:16
	"we wait for it with patience.	29:19
	"Likewise, the Spirit helps us in our weakness.	29:22
	"For we do not know how to pray as we ought,	29:25
	"but the Spirit himself intercedes for us	29:28
	"with sighs too deep for words.	29:31
	"And he who searches the hearts of men	29:34
	"knows what is the mind of the Spirit,	29:36
	"because the Spirit intercedes for the saints	29:39
	"according to the will of God.	29:41
	"We know that in everything God works for good with those	29:44
	"who love Him, who are called according to that purpose."	29:48
	Here ends the reading from the Epistle lesson.	29:54
	Amen.	29:57
	(serene organ and choral music)	30:24
-	Thou has made man a little lower than the angels.	31:58
	And has crowned him with honor and with glory.	32:05
	Thou has given him dominion over the work of thy hands.	32:14
	Thou has put all things under his feet.	32:22
	All sheep and oxen and the feast of the field,	32:26
	the fowl of the air, and the fish of the sea.	32:31
	(choral chanting)	32:36
	(serene organ music)	32:46
	(serene choral music)	32:59
-	Will the congregation please stand	34:22
	for the reading of the gospel lesson.	34:24
	The gospel lesson is from John 5:2-9.	34:30
	"Now there is in Jerusalem, by the Sheep Gate, a pool,	34:38
	"in Hebrew called Beth-za'tha, which has five porticoes.	34:42
	"In these lay a multitude of invalids,	34:48
	"blind, lame, paralyzed.	34:50
	"One man was there who had been ill for 38 years.	34:54
	"When Jesus saw him and knew that he had been	34:58
	"lying there a long time, He said to him,	35:01
	"'Do you want to be healed?'	35:04
	"The sick man answered Him, 'Sir, I have no man to put me	35:06
	"into the pool when the water is troubled, and while	35:10
	"I am gone and going another steps down before me.'	35:14
	"Jesus said to him, 'Rise, take up your pallet, and walk.'	35:18
	"And at once the man was healed,	35:23
	"and he took up his pallet and walked."	35:25
	Here ends the reading from the gospel lesson.	35:30
	Amen.	35:32
	(solemn organ and choral music)	35:34
-	Grace and peace be onto you from God our Creator	36:38
	and the Lord Jesus Christ.	36:42
	The question Jesus put to the man who had chronically ill	36:47
	for 38 years was,	36:51
	"Do you want to be healed?"	36:55
	Doesn't that seem like an absurd question to ask	36:58
	of a man lying crippled on a pallet?	37:02
	And yet on second thought, why had this man	37:07
	been waiting for 38 years?	37:11
	The pool of Beth-za'tha, called the place of five porches,	37:16
	by the first century Jews, was a shaded colonnade area	37:21
	where there were five entrances to a great pool.	37:27
	There was a legend at the time that said on occasion	37:32
	an angel would come to that pool of water	37:36
	and stir the waters.	37:40
	At that point, the first one into the water	37:43
	would be healed with a miraculous power.	37:46
	I perceived that that five porches area	37:51
	must have been a favorite haunt of invalids	37:55
	to come and to hope for a cure for their particular malady.	37:59
	So to me, when we see Jesus first approach this invalid,	38:05
	his question about healing appears rather ridiculous.	38:10
	But then we see what is this man's response	38:17
	to Jesus' question.	38:21
	We find the man evading the question itself.	38:23
	He begins to complain.	38:28
	He says that no one would put him in the water	38:31
	at the right time or that someone had always	38:34
	managed to reach the water before him.	38:37
	To me, this man was obviously for 38 years	38:42
	getting some kind of fringe benefits from his illness.	38:47
	I perceived that he became a complainer after a time.	38:52
	In this way, he can blame his condition	38:57
	on others not helping him.	38:59
	He could avoid the responsibility to live the life he had,	39:03
	regardless of the illness.	39:07
	By complaining, he could well rationalize becoming dependent	39:11
	and he could reject any demands placed on him.	39:16
	Thus it is no wonder that Jesus ask him,	39:21
	"Do you really want to be healed?"	39:26
	For you see, being well would mean paying a price,	39:30
	the price of losing the attention he had gotten	39:36
	for 38 years for being ill.	39:40
	I believe that sometimes we need to be sick.	39:45
	If we are honest at looking at ourselves,	39:51
	we must admit that for us too,	39:55
	illness can have some fringe benefits.	39:58
	I don't mean this as true every time we have a cold	40:03
	or miss work for a few days.	40:06
	But it could be happening to us	40:09
	and we would not be aware of it.	40:11
	Let me share with you some of the possible fringe benefits	40:14
	of illness and exactly what I mean by saying this.	40:18
	First, if we are ill, we can get attention	40:24
	we feel we might not get otherwise.	40:28
	I am aware that many battered children	40:33
	have longer than normal recovery times	40:36
	when they land in the hospital	40:39
	because even these children realize on some level	40:42
	that it is safer to stay in that hospital	40:47
	than it would be to return to the home environment.	40:50
	The growing presence of anorexia nervosa today	40:55
	among young women is a clear signal	40:59
	and a crying call for help.	41:03
	Part of this insidious disease is that	41:06
	self-inflicted starvation will guarantee attention	41:10
	for young women who seem so desperately to need it.	41:15
	In the second place, when we are ill,	41:22
	it is generally acceptable to be irritable,	41:25
	demanding, depressed, and teary-eyed.	41:29
	When we are ill we can expect comfort	41:34
	and we can expect soothing attention.	41:37
	We can use illness to manipulate others who are close to us,	41:41
	trying to get them to do what we want or to get our own way.	41:46
	When I had my tonsils out at age four,	41:53
	I noticed that every time I complained or cried,	41:56
	I would get a marvelous treat of ice cream or Jell-O	42:01
	or crushed ice and sometimes coloring books and crayons.	42:06
	My cries were very effective.	42:12
	I am also aware upon looking back at that time in my life	42:16
	that my older sister lay in the bed next to me,	42:21
	also minus her tonsils, but she was too weak to cry out	42:26
	and she could not talk, for infection had set in	42:32
	after surgery for her.	42:36
	Looking back on that experience now,	42:39
	I am quite sure that she did not get as much	42:42
	as attention as I did and that for her there was	42:46
	very little gratification in getting her tonsils out.	42:50
	Thirdly, we can use illness to secure preferential treatment	42:56
	which if we are not careful, can foster our own needs	43:02
	of being dependent upon others.	43:06
	It seems to me that the more sick we are,	43:10
	the more critical the illness, the larger the danger.	43:13
	We can use our illness to evoke sympathy or gain pity.	43:18
	How many times is it called forth from us	43:23
	to want to respond to a sick person,	43:27
	oh you poor thing.	43:30
	We can ourselves sink in self-pity at these moments.	43:34
	Worse yet, we can try to win love through illness	43:40
	when we begin to transmit this kind of message:	43:45
	How could you not love anyone as sickly as I am?	43:49
	I have been with people who have tried to hold on	43:56
	to a marriage partner through an illness,	43:59
	or to cling desperately to a child,	44:02
	relying on the illness itself to establish	44:06
	a kind of false loyalty.	44:10
	When we are ill, we can avoid having people	44:14
	make demands on us, for we can easily say	44:17
	well I would like to help out or do that but I am too ill.	44:21
	The list for ourselves will go on and on.	44:26
	We can escape competition with illness.	44:31
	How many athletes have you known who were injured	44:34
	before the big contest?	44:37
	We can avoid making difficult decisions	44:41
	confronting conflict within ourselves.	44:44
	Or working through deteriorating relationships	44:47
	when we are ill.	44:50
	In short, we can avoid, through illness,	44:52
	facing life as it is.	44:57
	I remember vividly a little boy	45:01
	who needed to be sick and who taught me a great deal	45:04
	out of a sick time in his life.	45:09
	When I was doing some clinical work	45:13
	in a hospital in Illinois, one of the units I covered	45:15
	in the hospital was a pediatric area.	45:19
	It was there that I met Matt, a bright very thin,	45:23
	five year old boy.	45:27
	He was admitted with severe rectal bleeding	45:30
	and it was most obvious that his parents,	45:34
	grandparents, and the physicians on duty,	45:37
	were very worried about him.	45:40
	They were with him constantly	45:43
	and very solicitous over his condition.	45:45
	It was finally decided by the doctors	45:50
	that some fairly serious surgery for a child that age	45:52
	would need to be performed.	45:57
	As a result of that surgery,	46:00
	the hospitalization time was eight weeks.	46:01
	During the sixth week, I noticed one morning	46:06
	that we had a new patient on the pediatrics unit,	46:09
	and he had the same last name as Matt's.	46:14
	When I walked into that child's room to get acquainted,	46:18
	I discovered Joey,	46:22
	an older lookalike of his brother Matt.	46:24
	It soon became clear to all of us	46:28
	that Joey had unconsciously decided	46:32
	that if he was going to get any attention in that family,	46:35
	he would have to get sick too	46:39
	and come to the hospital to get it.	46:41
	So Joey began developing symptoms similar to those of Matt.	46:45
	Those parents had put all of their energy	46:51
	into their sick child and were unable	46:54
	to give love and attention at home	46:57
	for the very short periods they were there.	46:59
	Amazingly, after several days of devoted attention,	47:04
	Joey miraculously recovered and was able to go home.	47:09
	Unfortunately, for that family, some of the dynamics	47:14
	of illness were understood in a new way	47:18
	and they were able to begin reestablishing	47:21
	some family ties and relationships.	47:24
	Now it is not often the case when we deliberately get sick	47:28
	to gain or to avoid anything, but I am aware	47:34
	that this can happen to us some times outside the level	47:38
	of our own awareness.	47:42
	We can use illness to be sheltered from life.	47:45
	Physicians tell us that from 50 to 70% of people they see	47:50
	in their offices really need a counselor,	47:56
	a minister, or some positive relationship,	47:59
	much more than they need any kind of medical attention.	48:04
	The more we learn about our bodies,	48:09
	the more aware we are of the inner-relatedness	48:12
	of all the parts and functions.	48:16
	It is true that when something goes wrong	48:19
	with one dimension of our life,	48:22
	it touches other dimensions as well, including the physical.	48:24
	I get the impression that the man at the pool	48:30
	of Beth-za'tha, nursed his ill health in some way.	48:33
	Perhaps clinging to that sickness	48:39
	without even being aware of it.	48:41
	Jesus searching words to him,	48:44
	"Do you want to be healed?"	48:48
	brought to him a new kind of strength	48:51
	and the recovery of health.	48:54
	Full health is understood in the gospel	48:58
	in a very special way.	49:01
	It is always understood as physical, emotional,	49:04
	and spiritual soundness.	49:08
	Healing for Jesus would be an act of the whole part	49:10
	of rescuing of life.	49:14
	Healing is an expression of God's	49:17
	continuing work of salvation.	49:20
	In fact, the meaning of salvation	49:23
	in the New Testament is wholeness.	49:25
	The many ways that we see healing	49:30
	recorded for us in the gospels,	49:32
	conveys a sense of deep mystery.	49:35
	Something happens to someone that seems	49:39
	extraordinarily significant and could not have been	49:41
	expected under normal circumstances.	49:45
	The point of each story seems to be beyond	49:48
	any scientific explanation.	49:52
	But according to the gospels, Jesus' miracles of healings	49:55
	were real and specific.	50:00
	Events which could be grasped and understood.	50:02
	I believe it is important for us to remember	50:07
	that a healing always occurred	50:11
	in an atmosphere of faith.	50:14
	For the question of miracle cannot be separated from faith.	50:17
	In the New Testament, it is faith in the person of Jesus,	50:24
	the preaching and His power, both of which had to do	50:28
	with the dawning of the Kingdom of God,	50:33
	around which healing occurs.	50:36
	I believe that faith then as now,	50:39
	cannot prove that miracles happen,	50:43
	but it is faith which is the context in which we began	50:46
	to understand the signs and wonders of God.	50:51
	After the man at the pool of Beth-za'tha	50:58
	unknowingly revealed to Jesus the fringe benefits	51:01
	of his illness, Jesus told him,	51:06
	"Pick up your bed and walk,	51:10
	"or pick up your life and walk."	51:12
	Dare to take the risk of being whole and being well,	51:16
	and then you can begin to meet life as it is	51:21
	and as it comes to you.	51:24
	The book "I Never Promised You a Rose Garden"	51:29
	has left a deep impression on me	51:31
	even after years have passed since first reading that.	51:34
	To me that book is a book about healing.	51:39
	It tell us the story of Debra, a young schizophrenic woman	51:43
	who becomes that way because reality in her own life	51:49
	is too painful for her to face.	51:53
	She's been in a private hospital for a long time	51:56
	working with a therapist and the time comes	52:00
	when Debra must leave that hospital,	52:03
	become part of the community again,	52:06
	pick up her bed and walk.	52:10
	But she is afraid of the risk and the pain	52:13
	that will involve for her.	52:17
	There is far more security in the fantasy world	52:19
	which she has created for herself.	52:23
	She dramatizes her fear at that moment	52:26
	by beginning to burn her body with matches,	52:30
	which will guarantee that she can stay	52:34
	in the hospital awhile longer.	52:37
	The question for us today as we hear the gospel lesson is	52:42
	do we want to be healed?	52:47
	It is our faith in God and in the saving grace of wholeness	52:52
	that we find in Jesus Christ that can help us say	52:57
	yes to that question.	53:03
	We can choose to face life the way it is	53:06
	with its hurts and pains.	53:10
	When we began to relate to ourselves and God and others	53:13
	in wholeness and in ways of love,	53:18
	we won't need to be sick anymore.	53:22
	We will be able to coup with illnesses that do come to us.	53:26
	The word to the man at the pool of Beth-za'tha,	53:32
	is still the same word to us today	53:35
	and the challenge of the gospel to all of us is this,	53:39
	as Jesus has said it,	53:45
	"Pick up your life and walk."	53:47
	So be it, amen.	53:52
	(solemn organ music)	54:03
	(solemn choral music)	54:28
-	Let us affirm what we believe.	56:26
	We believe in God who has created and is creating.	56:29
	Who has come into truly human Jesus,	56:35
	to reconcile and make new.	56:38
	Who works in us and others, by the Spirit.	56:41
	We trust God, who calls us to be the church.	56:45
	To celebrate life and its fullness.	56:50
	To love and serve others.	56:53
	To seek justice and resist evil.	56:55
	To proclaim Jesus crucified and risen.	56:59
	Our judge and our hope.	57:03
	In life, in death, in life beyond death,	57:06
	God is with us, we are not alone.	57:10
	Thanks be to God.	57:15
	The Lord be with you.	57:19
-	And with your spirit.	57:21
-	Let us pray.	57:23
	Oh Lord our God, Thou who did steal the diseases	57:43
	of all who seek Thee,	57:48
	Thou who does know our needs	57:52
	more than we know them ourselves,	57:54
	cause us now to cry out with Thee,	57:58
	out to Thee from hearts that truly believe,	58:00
	asking for wholeness through Jesus Christ.	58:05
	Thou know us who we are and from whence	58:10
	we come to this place.	58:12
	Some of us have come from well ordered lives,	58:16
	marked with health and strength,	58:19
	with success, with friendship.	58:23
	Some of us come from a deeper need,	58:28
	Thou know us our brokenness, our loneliness,	58:32
	our embarrassment, our sin.	58:37
	Thou know us the world from which we come to Thee oh God.	58:43
	A world that is marked by violence,	58:48
	by deceit,	58:53
	by greed.	58:56
	Thou know us the tragedies of this past week.	59:01
	Hear us oh God as in one voice, we ask for thy salvation	59:08
	through Jesus Christ our Lord.	59:12
	Hear us oh God as in one voice, we ask for newness of life.	59:16
	Hear us oh God as in one voice,	59:24
	we pray for new strength for the Pope,	59:28
	for some vision in the midst of this confusion,	59:33
	for thy peace, even in the midst of our brokenness.	59:38
	But oh divine love, Thou who does everlastingly	59:49
	stand outside the closed doors of all the souls	59:53
	of men and women, knocking ever and ever again,	59:56
	will Thou not now give each one of us grace	1:00:01
	to throw open our soul's doors.	1:00:04
	Not every bolt and bar be drawn,	1:00:07
	let us hither to, robbed our lives	1:00:10
	of the fresh breezes of Thy spirit and of light and of love.	1:00:16
	Open our ears of God that we may hear Thy voice	1:00:23
	calling us to new high and ever.	1:00:26
	Too often we have been deaf to appeals	1:00:30
	that Thou has addressed to us.	1:00:32
	But now give us courage to answer	1:00:34
	with the Prophet Jeremiah sent me.	1:00:37
	And when anyone of Thy children,	1:00:41
	our human brothers and sisters cries out in need,	1:00:44
	give to one of us and all of us	1:00:48
	an open ear to hear that cry, Thy call to service.	1:00:50
	Give us open eyes oh God, eyes quick to discover	1:00:58
	Thy end dwelling in the world which Thou has made.	1:01:01
	Let all lovely things today, fill us with gladness	1:01:07
	and let them uplift our minds	1:01:10
	to thine everlasting loveliness.	1:01:12
	Forgive all our blindness in past days	1:01:15
	to that which is grand and glorious,	1:01:18
	our blindness to charm of little children.	1:01:22
	To the sublimities of the human story.	1:01:26
	To all the intimations of Thy presence,	1:01:30
	which 10,000 things in this world contain.	1:01:34
	And give us open hands oh God,	1:01:42
	hands ready to share with all who are in want,	1:01:44
	the blessings which Thou has given to us.	1:01:47
	Deliver us from all vengeance,	1:01:53
	all meanness, all selfishness, all self-righteousness.	1:01:57
	Let us hold Thy gifts in stewardship.	1:02:06
	And let our whole lives be as a trust for Thee.	1:02:12
	To whom even now, be all honor and glory forever.	1:02:16
	Through Jesus Christ, who has taught us when we pray to say:	1:02:25
	Our Father, Who art in heaven,	1:02:31
	hallowed be Thy name.	1:02:35
	Thy kingdom come, Thy will be done,	1:02:37
	on Earth as it is in heaven.	1:02:42
	Give us this day our daily bread	1:02:45
	and forgive us our trespasses,	1:02:48
	as we forgive those who trespass against us.	1:02:51
	And lead us not into temptation	1:02:55
	but deliver from evil.	1:02:58
	For thine is the kingdom and the power	1:03:01
	and the glory forever.	1:03:04
	Amen.	1:03:07
	(serene organ music)	1:03:14
	(serene choral music)	1:05:07
	(solemn organ music)	1:08:10
	(solemn choral music)	1:09:14
	Almighty God, Thou who has given all things,	1:10:20
	the appointment of our lives stands according Thy will	1:10:25
	and we could not bring gifts to Thee	1:10:28
	had Thou not first given to us.	1:10:30
	Therefore receive our gratitude and also these gifts	1:10:34
	and bless them to the Kingdom of God	1:10:39
	through Jesus Christ our Lord.	1:10:42
	Amen.	1:10:44
	(serene organ music)	1:10:47
	(serene choral music)	1:11:30
-	The Lord bless you and keep you.	1:15:09
	The Lord made his face to shine upon you	1:15:11
	and be gracious onto you.	1:15:13
	The Lord lift up the light of his countenance upon you	1:15:16
	and give you peace today and forevermore.	1:15:19
	Amen.	1:15:24
	♪ Amen ♪	1:15:28
	♪ Glory Jesus my Lord ♪	1:15:35
	♪ Praise His name ♪	1:15:43
	♪ Praise His name ♪	1:15:50
	♪ Praise His name forever ♪	1:15:58
	♪ Lord He will live forever ♪	1:16:05
	♪ Amen ♪	1:16:16
	(uplifting organ music)	1:16:30
	(laughing)	1:20:47

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Title:

Charlene P. Kammerer - "Sometimes We Need to Be Sick" (May 17, 1981)

Description:

Sermon start time: 36:38. Sermon end time: 53:56.
The preacher discusses how some people unconsciously want to be sick to receive attention and excuse bad behavior. She encourages listeners to seek “physical, emotional, and spiritual soundness” and take responsibility for their lives. (Abstract created by Duke Divinity School staff.)
Key quotation: Meet life as it is, and as it comes. Dare to take the risk of being whole and of being well.

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Date:

May 17, 1981

Speaker:

Kammerer, Charlene P.

Liturgical Calendar:

Easter

Biblical Book:

John

Chapter and Verse:

John 5:2-9

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Contributor:

Duke University. Chapel

Identifier:

UA.17.01.0003 RR-1158
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