Qasem, Abubakir - short clip - spy
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(speaking in foreign language) | 0:00 | |
Translator | There's something that he has never spoken | 0:06 |
to anybody, not to attorneys, | 0:08 | |
he say even attorneys don't even know this, | 0:11 | |
not to any reporters, | 0:14 | |
this is something that he kept to himself, | 0:16 | |
never really revealed anywhere | 0:19 | |
but since your project is a witness | 0:20 | |
to Guantanamo, related | 0:23 | |
everything that people gone through | 0:24 | |
and their experience in Guantanamo, he thinks | 0:27 | |
that this is the time | 0:30 | |
that he should speak out about this. | 0:31 | |
About two years after he was brought | 0:35 | |
to Guantanamo, one time some people came | 0:37 | |
and to speak to him. | 0:43 | |
They brought this woman, a Mongolian. | 0:45 | |
She said she's Mongolian. She spoke Chinese. | 0:49 | |
And she tried to, they came in | 0:53 | |
without translator first, | 0:54 | |
they tried to talk to him | 0:56 | |
in Chinese and he understood what she was saying. | 0:57 | |
She said that they represent themselves | 1:01 | |
as from the intelligence service | 1:04 | |
from United States | 1:07 | |
and she was trying to recruit him | 1:08 | |
to become informer or spy | 1:11 | |
for United States and said things like, | 1:14 | |
if you agree to work for us, | 1:18 | |
we'll give you passport, | 1:19 | |
we'll send you back to Afghanistan | 1:22 | |
and you go there and you | 1:24 | |
collect information for us | 1:26 | |
and you work for us as informer. | 1:28 | |
And so he understood some of them, but he said, | 1:31 | |
"My Chinese is not good, I forgot Chinese | 1:36 | |
and the only Chinese I know is related | 1:42 | |
to trade and the little things | 1:45 | |
but I don't understand the political things, | 1:50 | |
so if you want to speak to me, | 1:52 | |
bring a translator." | 1:54 | |
And then when she said that to the other people | 1:55 | |
somebody else came and says, | 2:02 | |
"Oh, if she speaks slowly | 2:03 | |
I think you will understand. | 2:05 | |
We try not to use translator, | 2:06 | |
can you try to communicate | 2:08 | |
in Chinese, without using translator?" | 2:09 | |
He says, "No, I don't understand | 2:12 | |
what she's saying, I'm not getting it." | 2:14 | |
Then after few months, | 2:16 | |
she came back with a translator | 2:18 | |
and basically that's what she was asking | 2:20 | |
them do, is asking them to work as a spy. | 2:23 | |
And he says, "No, I'm not interested | 2:29 | |
in anything like that." | 2:30 | |
And then she made the threats, | 2:34 | |
she says, "Either your work for us | 2:36 | |
or we are going to send you back to China." | 2:37 | |
And he says, "Fine. If you have said this | 2:42 | |
to me two years ago, I would be afraid. | 2:44 | |
But if you are telling me now, | 2:46 | |
I'm not afraid of it, | 2:48 | |
If you sent me back to China, | 2:50 | |
they will execute me and I will become a hero | 2:52 | |
in front of my people. | 2:54 | |
And if you are doing this to threaten me | 2:57 | |
or if you are sending me back | 3:02 | |
because I didn't agree | 3:04 | |
to be a spy for your country, | 3:06 | |
sending me back to China | 3:08 | |
make your country look really bad | 3:10 | |
in front of international communities. | 3:12 | |
After you kept me here for two years, knowing | 3:16 | |
that I'm innocent, | 3:18 | |
announcing to the world that I'm innocent | 3:19 | |
and then you are going to send me back to China | 3:21 | |
and the whole world will know | 3:24 | |
what United States is all about, | 3:26 | |
so send me back right now." | 3:28 | |
- | (speaking foreign language). | 3:29 |
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