Bradley, Yvonne - short clip - FirstMeeting
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(pen scratching on paper) | 0:00 | |
- | [Lt. Col. Yvonne Bradley] I remember the first time | 0:02 |
going in to to see Mr. Mohamed. | 0:04 | |
At that particular time, | 0:07 | |
I kind of, embarrassed to say this now. | 0:09 | |
I was really scared to go in to meet him. | 0:11 | |
And, I had no reason to be scared. | 0:15 | |
And, given my background and my criminal background. | 0:18 | |
Given that I've sat face-to-face | 0:20 | |
with people who were convicted of crimes. | 0:22 | |
But, I remember walking in there thinking, | 0:26 | |
wow, I'm scared to what I can even say | 0:28 | |
to this individual. | 0:32 | |
And, I think it was at that point | 0:33 | |
when I started putting together | 0:35 | |
after meeting Mr. Mohamed | 0:37 | |
And seeing him. | 0:39 | |
Seeing his demeanor and looking into his eyes | 0:40 | |
and seeing his body language. | 0:43 | |
And, he was probably more scared of me, than I was of him. | 0:44 | |
And, I'm coming in and telling him | 0:48 | |
and he had no choice. | 0:49 | |
I'm coming and telling him, "I'm your attorney." | 0:51 | |
And he's trying to figure out, | 0:54 | |
"Are you really my attorney?" | 0:55 | |
Is this an..." | 0:58 | |
Because one of the things I heard | 0:59 | |
that they were doing at Guantanamo. | 1:01 | |
It was after attorneys meet with certain clients | 1:02 | |
or that individuals who go in, | 1:05 | |
I don't know who they were, | 1:08 | |
saying they were attorneys | 1:09 | |
trying to get detainees to confess | 1:11 | |
or open up or make admissions. | 1:14 | |
So part of, I think probably that was going | 1:16 | |
through his process is, | 1:19 | |
"What kind of trick is this? | 1:20 | |
Is this real?" | 1:22 | |
Because in Guantanamo, it's "Alice in Wonderland." | 1:23 | |
You don't know what's real. | 1:26 | |
You don't know what's... | 1:28 | |
It's absolutely madness. | 1:30 | |
So, I walk in to the cell thinking, | 1:32 | |
"Oh my God, this guy's a terrorist. | 1:34 | |
I'm not gonna give him any information. | 1:37 | |
He's probably gonna get something out | 1:38 | |
to do something against me or my family." | 1:40 | |
I walk in there with that type of attitude. | 1:42 | |
I walk out saying, "This is total nonsense." | 1:44 | |
Almost angry. | 1:49 | |
Because I realized for the first time | 1:52 | |
that whatever I knew about Guantanamo, | 1:53 | |
where I read about Guantanamo, | 1:56 | |
whatever information they had about Binyam, | 1:58 | |
was likely not true. | 2:01 | |
And, that was the first time | 2:03 | |
when it just hit me like, | 2:05 | |
wow how fear and propaganda can make such a difference | 2:06 | |
on how people understand things. | 2:10 | |
And, I was probably more mad coming out of that cell | 2:13 | |
with Binyam, than I was scared when I first went in. | 2:16 |
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