William H. Willimon - "Satan: A Second Look" (March 8, 1998)
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- | At the beginning of his ministry | 0:11 |
as a young man Jesus | 0:15 | |
was led into the wilderness | 0:18 | |
and there he | 0:19 | |
was confronted by | 0:21 | |
Satan. | 0:23 | |
And maybe Luke is trying to say that | 0:26 | |
if you ever | 0:31 | |
meet | 0:33 | |
Satan | 0:34 | |
it'll most likely be in your mid 20's | 0:36 | |
when you're just starting out like Jesus. | 0:39 | |
And yet I dare say most of us | 0:44 | |
expect not to be met | 0:46 | |
by Satan. | 0:49 | |
A few years ago | 0:51 | |
Princeton Professor Elaine Pagels | 0:54 | |
had a bestselling book called | 0:57 | |
The Origin | 0:59 | |
of | 1:00 | |
Satan. | 1:01 | |
And there she explored our fascination | 1:03 | |
with the Devil. | 1:05 | |
And Pagels tells how Christians borrowed | 1:08 | |
the Jewish notion of | 1:11 | |
a devil. | 1:14 | |
And then in a peculiar act of perversity | 1:16 | |
Christians applied that notion to the Jews. | 1:19 | |
And then we applied it to Christian heretics, | 1:23 | |
to pagans, to anyone with whom we disagreed. | 1:26 | |
Pagels says, | 1:32 | |
"That Satan, | 1:33 | |
the Devil | 1:35 | |
is merely and ancient Jewish Christian name | 1:36 | |
for | 1:40 | |
the other." | 1:41 | |
"For anyone who is different from us." | 1:43 | |
"For anyone whose existence | 1:45 | |
poses a challenge | 1:48 | |
to us." | 1:51 | |
"So | 1:53 | |
Whites | 1:54 | |
depicted | 1:56 | |
the Devil as Black, | 1:56 | |
even though there's none of that in the Bible." | 1:58 | |
No, the Bible says, | 2:01 | |
"Satan masquerades | 2:02 | |
as an angel of light, | 2:05 | |
evil hides among the good." | 2:07 | |
So Scott Peck in his book | 2:11 | |
People of the Lie | 2:15 | |
says, | 2:16 | |
"If you want to find | 2:17 | |
evil a good place for us to looks say is in the church | 2:20 | |
because it is the nature of Satan | 2:25 | |
to hide | 2:27 | |
among | 2:28 | |
the good." | 2:29 | |
And here I think is where Pagels is wrong. | 2:32 | |
For Pagels Satan is little more | 2:36 | |
than | 2:39 | |
our human propensity | 2:40 | |
to regard | 2:42 | |
others as threat. | 2:44 | |
Otherness | 2:47 | |
is evil. | 2:48 | |
We take those whom we don't understand, | 2:50 | |
those who are different from us | 2:53 | |
and we label them | 2:54 | |
as satanic. | 2:56 | |
Satan | 2:58 | |
for Pagels | 2:59 | |
is only | 3:01 | |
a kind of | 3:03 | |
primitive name for a failure | 3:05 | |
of multiculturalism. | 3:07 | |
The projection of our evil ideas | 3:10 | |
upon others whom we now call | 3:13 | |
Satan. | 3:17 | |
She thus reverses the traditional Christian view | 3:19 | |
that Satan is the origin of evil | 3:22 | |
now to mean that our evil is the origin of Satan. | 3:26 | |
And you know that the modern world has a long history | 3:32 | |
of reductionism. | 3:35 | |
Of reducing faith to nothing more than | 3:37 | |
a psychological or social projection | 3:40 | |
of our dilemmas out there. | 3:44 | |
Pagels does just that. | 3:48 | |
It's all projection | 3:50 | |
end of Satan. | 3:53 | |
And yet I'm some what embarrassed here | 3:58 | |
at this stage in my life. | 3:59 | |
I don't know whether it's because, | 4:02 | |
maybe it's because I'm over 50. | 4:03 | |
Maybe it's because of the events on campus last weekend. | 4:05 | |
I don't know. | 4:08 | |
But | 4:09 | |
finding a strange willingness | 4:11 | |
to take a second look | 4:15 | |
at | 4:17 | |
Satan. | 4:18 | |
To ask somebody like Pagels, | 4:21 | |
How on earth | 4:24 | |
does a mere projection of our imaginations | 4:26 | |
have such | 4:30 | |
power over us? | 4:32 | |
When Jesus was confronted by Satan | 4:35 | |
in the wilderness | 4:37 | |
as we read about last Sunday, | 4:38 | |
certainly Jesus was there face to face | 4:42 | |
with some of his own inner turmoil. | 4:45 | |
Jesus love life. | 4:48 | |
He wanted to be loved. | 4:50 | |
He wanted to avoid pain. | 4:52 | |
Who doesn't? | 4:53 | |
And it is true that those human desires | 4:56 | |
to be loved, to be accepted, to be successful, | 5:00 | |
it is true that these are the origins of | 5:04 | |
some of our most satanic temptation. | 5:09 | |
But by saying that Jesus was confronted by Satan | 5:13 | |
that the evil which confronted Jesus | 5:17 | |
there in the wilderness had a face, | 5:19 | |
a personality, | 5:22 | |
a name, | 5:23 | |
I think Luke meant us to know | 5:25 | |
that the resistance against Jesus | 5:27 | |
was more than some kind of psychological projection. | 5:31 | |
It was organized. | 5:34 | |
It was subtle. | 5:36 | |
And genuine threat. | 5:38 | |
In resisting Satan | 5:41 | |
Jesus wasn't just overcoming his own human inclinations, | 5:43 | |
Jesus was confronting principalities and powers. | 5:48 | |
Evil. | 5:53 | |
Evil not just manufactured within the human heart | 5:54 | |
but evil within the whole universe, | 5:58 | |
cosmic, | 6:00 | |
big, | 6:02 | |
greater than that of our own creation. | 6:03 | |
Pagels | 6:07 | |
says, "That belief in Satan | 6:09 | |
has tempted Christians to demonize those | 6:11 | |
who are merely different from us | 6:15 | |
and such belief has contributed | 6:19 | |
to human sinfulness." | 6:22 | |
And yet Harvard's Jon Levenson | 6:25 | |
a distinguished Jewish scholar | 6:27 | |
ask | 6:30 | |
"If Satan is a temptation to do bad things, | 6:32 | |
which in our better moments we might not have done | 6:36 | |
might Satan also energize us to do good things, | 6:40 | |
which left to our own devices we might not have done" | 6:44 | |
Levenson invokes the blessed memory | 6:50 | |
of the martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer. | 6:53 | |
Bonhoeffer was dismissed from his prestigious | 6:56 | |
post by the Nazis. | 7:01 | |
He came to the United States for safety. | 7:04 | |
He lectured awhile here | 7:06 | |
but then he made a courageous decision | 7:08 | |
to go back to Germany | 7:09 | |
at the beginning of the war | 7:11 | |
and work against the Nazis. | 7:12 | |
And when Dietrich Bonhoeffer | 7:16 | |
spoke of Hitler and his followers | 7:18 | |
what he spoke of people in the church | 7:20 | |
who were willing to work with Hitler, | 7:23 | |
Bonhoeffer did not shrink from using | 7:26 | |
the inflammatory term | 7:29 | |
Antichrist | 7:31 | |
to describe Christians who collaborated with the Nazis. | 7:34 | |
Eventually Bonhoeffer paid for his witness with his life. | 7:39 | |
And Professor Levenson wonders, | 7:45 | |
"Would Bonhoeffer have been as clear | 7:48 | |
and courageous in his resistance | 7:51 | |
if he had merely | 7:55 | |
explained Hitler | 7:57 | |
and his followers | 7:59 | |
as those who were merely the victims of some kind of | 8:01 | |
inner psychological turmoil? | 8:03 | |
No. | 8:07 | |
It is clear that Dietrich Bonhoeffer believed | 8:09 | |
in the existence of the demonic. | 8:13 | |
Evil | 8:16 | |
has got a face, | 8:18 | |
and a name, | 8:19 | |
and is a personality. | 8:21 | |
And it's like it moves against us and wants us. | 8:22 | |
Maybe because Levenson is a member of a people | 8:28 | |
who have suffered unspeakable evil | 8:32 | |
at the hands of others. | 8:35 | |
Maybe that's why he is willing at least | 8:38 | |
to consider the possibility that evil is real. | 8:40 | |
That evil has a personality. | 8:43 | |
That he's got a name | 8:46 | |
Satan. | 8:48 | |
Levenson says, | 8:51 | |
"Given the mysterious capacity of human beings | 8:52 | |
for unspeakable evil, | 8:56 | |
a belief in Satan may lead not only to acts of demonization | 8:58 | |
but also to acts | 9:04 | |
of courageous redemption." | 9:06 | |
"In explaining away the challenge posed | 9:10 | |
by the satanic to the divine | 9:13 | |
to us, | 9:16 | |
Elaine Pagels unwittingly contributes | 9:18 | |
to a sentimentalization of religion." | 9:22 | |
This make sense to me now. | 9:27 | |
A number of years ago I wrote a book | 9:31 | |
on sin and evil in the Christian life, | 9:33 | |
Sign for Eden. | 9:36 | |
And in that book I confess I took the rather | 9:39 | |
conventional modern view that | 9:41 | |
when discussing sin and evil | 9:44 | |
the idea of a | 9:47 | |
personal devil | 9:48 | |
or Satan was just not helpful. | 9:50 | |
"Evil is more | 9:54 | |
in us." | 9:55 | |
I said. | 9:56 | |
"Than something outside us." | 9:57 | |
Besides those people who say | 10:00 | |
when they've done something wrong, | 10:02 | |
"Oh, the Devil made me do it." | 10:04 | |
They're just trying to excuse their own sinful behavior. | 10:06 | |
I received a letter | 10:12 | |
from a woman | 10:14 | |
who had spent a number of years | 10:15 | |
in the pastoral ministry. | 10:17 | |
"What you say about there being no real Satan may be true, | 10:21 | |
however as a woman | 10:26 | |
pastor | 10:29 | |
I've come to believe that if evil | 10:30 | |
does not have a name | 10:32 | |
Satan | 10:34 | |
it ought to." | 10:36 | |
"I came into the ministry because I believe God called me." | 10:38 | |
"I sacrificed and worked." | 10:42 | |
"The churches that I serve are full of good people, | 10:44 | |
at least better than average people, | 10:47 | |
who are in church wanting to be good | 10:49 | |
and wanting to do good." | 10:52 | |
"For the most part my ministry among them | 10:54 | |
has been well received | 10:56 | |
but not completely." | 11:00 | |
"I have seen good people do terrible things." | 11:02 | |
"I've witnessed the depth of cruelty" | 11:06 | |
"Some but not all of it directed at me." | 11:09 | |
"This has shocked me." | 11:14 | |
"I am now willing to believe that our lives | 11:16 | |
are not entirely our own." | 11:19 | |
"That we are in the grip of something, someone | 11:22 | |
who leads down dark paths." | 11:25 | |
In short, | 11:27 | |
I am more willing than you | 11:28 | |
to conceive of Satan." | 11:31 | |
Her letter really hit home to me. | 11:37 | |
It's fine for me, you know, | 11:41 | |
somebody who rarely encounters real injustice or cruelty. | 11:43 | |
Somebody who's well fed, and non addicted, and free | 11:47 | |
to dismiss the idea of Satan is outmoded, | 11:51 | |
naive. | 11:54 | |
And yet for somebody who has been the recipient | 11:58 | |
of honest to God evil | 12:01 | |
evil's got a face, | 12:03 | |
a name | 12:05 | |
Satan. | 12:07 | |
It is no kindness to tell somebody | 12:09 | |
who has been encountered by real evil | 12:12 | |
that evil is only some warped projection | 12:15 | |
of our human psyche | 12:18 | |
the result of improper education | 12:19 | |
or poor child rearing practices. | 12:22 | |
The pain and the anguish suffered by victims | 12:26 | |
of injustice, sin, and evil is real. | 12:29 | |
So real we've even got a name for it. | 12:32 | |
It's got a face. | 12:36 | |
Paul wrote these anguished words | 12:40 | |
after he became a Christian. | 12:44 | |
"I do not understand my own action | 12:48 | |
for I do not do what I want | 12:51 | |
but I do the very thing that I hate." | 12:54 | |
"It is no longer I that do it | 12:57 | |
but sin | 13:00 | |
dwells within me." | 13:02 | |
I think that you know some of the inner turmoil | 13:07 | |
of which Paul speaks. | 13:10 | |
I know that Jesus knows | 13:14 | |
'cause he felt himself at the beginning of his | 13:17 | |
adulthood | 13:21 | |
in the wilderness. | 13:23 | |
Later in this service when we pray the Lord's Prayer | 13:25 | |
we're going to ask all of us to be delivered from evil. | 13:31 | |
Some versions of the prayer say, | 13:36 | |
"Deliver us from the evil one." | 13:38 | |
Thus the prayer makes explicit | 13:42 | |
it's like there's this conspiracy against God's Kingdom. | 13:44 | |
It's like they've gotten organized | 13:48 | |
in which a personification of evil | 13:52 | |
Satan makes a lot of sense. | 13:55 | |
First Peter says to Christians, | 14:00 | |
"Keep alert | 14:03 | |
like a roaring lion your adversary the Devil | 14:05 | |
prowls around looking for somebody new to devour." | 14:09 | |
In praying to God to deliver us from evil | 14:15 | |
we acknowledge that God is greater than any foe of God. | 14:19 | |
I think the power of evil needs to be admitted, | 14:25 | |
and named, and taken seriously. | 14:28 | |
And yet not too seriously. | 14:31 | |
Maybe that's why though The Lord's Prayer | 14:35 | |
honestly focuses upon trial, and temptation, | 14:37 | |
and sin, and evil. | 14:41 | |
You'll note it never mentions Satan by name. | 14:43 | |
It doesn't want to give him that much time within a service. | 14:48 | |
And maybe that's the way we outta think about Satan. | 14:54 | |
Evil is not a mere projection of our conflicted egos, | 14:58 | |
evil is real | 15:03 | |
and yet the cross and the resurrection of Christ tell us | 15:05 | |
that evil doesn't have the last word. | 15:10 | |
Evil is | 15:15 | |
threat. | 15:17 | |
Though it is a defeated one. | 15:19 | |
Though the battle rages Monday through Saturday | 15:24 | |
every time you come up here | 15:27 | |
and break the bread and pass the cup, | 15:29 | |
on Sunday | 15:32 | |
we proclaim | 15:34 | |
who has won the war. | 15:36 | |
During the season of Lent | 15:39 | |
we try to tone things down a little bit here, | 15:41 | |
we turn down the lighting, | 15:43 | |
we turn down the music, | 15:44 | |
we don't have flowers. | 15:46 | |
Things are kinda somber. | 15:49 | |
This is the season that | 15:50 | |
we focus upon sin, and death, and those Lenten themes. | 15:52 | |
Yeah. | 15:55 | |
But you will note | 15:58 | |
finally the service ends in a song of triumph. | 16:00 | |
A shout of praise. | 16:05 | |
Because | 16:08 | |
we know who's won the war. | 16:09 | |
When we pray for deliverance from evil | 16:14 | |
we honestly acknowledge that we don't have the resources | 16:17 | |
on our own to resist. | 16:21 | |
Satan has real power over our lives. | 16:25 | |
But the good news is that | 16:30 | |
just as Jesus was able to resist the wiles of Satan | 16:32 | |
and to reject his tempting offers | 16:37 | |
so we, | 16:40 | |
with his help can also resist. | 16:41 | |
In our weakness we reach out | 16:45 | |
and there is deliverance. | 16:49 | |
Isn't that how Alcoholics Anonymous puts it. | 16:52 | |
We had to reach out to a power greater than ourselves. | 16:55 | |
Note that one of the ways Alcoholics Anonymous | 17:01 | |
enables you to reach out to a power greater than yourself | 17:04 | |
and the chief means through which that power intervenes | 17:09 | |
in our behalf is by putting you in a group. | 17:14 | |
The group, | 17:18 | |
the community, | 17:20 | |
we call it church | 17:21 | |
enables us to be free from Satan. | 17:24 | |
Jesus | 17:27 | |
stood alone in the wilderness when he encountered Satan | 17:29 | |
but the good news is you don't have to stand alone. | 17:34 | |
And maybe that's why you got up on this dreary morning | 17:40 | |
and came to church. | 17:43 | |
You're not alone. | 17:46 | |
The church stands with you | 17:49 | |
against Satan's temptation in whatever wilderness | 17:52 | |
you find yourself. | 17:57 | |
Jesus | 17:59 | |
who knows what it's like to be face to face with evil, | 18:01 | |
Jesus | 18:06 | |
stands with you | 18:07 | |
a mighty fortress is our God. | 18:10 | |
A bulwark never failing. | 18:14 | |
The prince of darkness grim | 18:16 | |
we tremble not | 18:20 | |
for him. | 18:21 | |
Here | 18:24 | |
is good news this second Sunday in Lent | 18:25 | |
although temptation is real | 18:30 | |
Satan | 18:32 | |
doesn't get the last word. | 18:34 | |
Thanks be to God | 18:37 | |
through Jesus Christ we | 18:39 | |
are more than victors. | 18:41 |
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