Susie Weathersbee interview recording, 1993 June 30
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Leslie Brown | State your name for the tape. | 0:03 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | My name? | 0:05 |
Leslie Brown | Yes. | 0:06 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Susie Weathersbee. | 0:06 |
Leslie Brown | Susie Weathersbee. Are you originally from this area? | 0:07 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Born right here, in this area. Been here all my life. Nowhere else, but just going and coming, going and coming. | 0:12 |
Leslie Brown | Have you always lived in this house? | 0:20 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Uh-uh. I ain't been in this house but 30 years. | 0:22 |
Leslie Brown | Where were you born? What's the town called? | 0:28 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | You remember where this—Halifax County. | 0:33 |
Emma W. Dancy | I don't— | 0:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That county up in there. | 0:36 |
Emma W. Dancy | Yeah, she was born in Halifax County. | 0:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Halifax County. I was born in Halifax County. | 0:36 |
Leslie Brown | What was the house like? | 0:46 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | What? The house I was staying in? | 0:48 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 0:49 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I stayed in a log house. When I left out the log house, I went in a weatherboard house. And every other house I stayed in was a weatherboard. Then I was a farmer. I'll tell you that. | 0:51 |
Leslie Brown | You were a farmer? | 1:11 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I was a farmer, and that's all I've ever done, is work on a farm. | 1:13 |
Leslie Brown | What kind of farming did you do? | 1:18 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Picking cotton, shaking peas, plowing. All of that. | 1:21 |
Leslie Brown | When you were growing up, did your family own their own land? | 1:29 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Uh-uh. They worked sharecrop. | 1:31 |
Leslie Brown | They were sharecroppers? | 1:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. | 1:31 |
Leslie Brown | Who did they sharecrop with? | 1:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | They sharecropped with Jack Jones, Jim Poke, and Turner Edmond. That's for me and my husband. And my father, he worked with Jessie Edmond and—What's the man's name? The man was a White man with the name of—Lord, what was his name? I'm all the time talking about him. Got over to the little plantation. Mr. Mark. Mark. What is the last name? Mark something. | 1:33 |
Leslie Brown | Mark. | 2:21 |
Emma W. Dancy | Is it Charlie Marks? | 2:21 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No. It wasn't Charlie Marks too. It wasn't Charlie Marks. He was another Mark. He may be kin to Charlie Mark. And us worked for him. Us sharecropped with him. That was my father and that. | 2:28 |
Leslie Brown | Could you describe sharecropping? What did you do? | 2:47 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Sharecropping was terrible, I'll tell you. Because you worked until the evening, when you're high off the crop. And time for you—to settle up with you, sometimes you cleared something and sometimes you didn't. You were still in debt. | 2:51 |
Leslie Brown | Now how did it work when you settled up at the end of the year? | 3:09 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's what I'm talking about now. At the end of the year, when you settled up—Now that's like, you worked all the year and then the following year— | 3:15 |
Emma W. Dancy | Like, she was like—Or how the man furnished the land and probably the seeds. | 3:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | You furnished the labor. | 3:31 |
Emma W. Dancy | Labor. Mm-hmm. | 3:31 |
Leslie Brown | And at the end of the day— | 3:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And you had to pay for half of it to go down, and he paid for half of the fertilizer and things. | 3:36 |
Emma W. Dancy | Half of the seeds. | 3:38 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Everything, you half, half. And then when it came to finally figure it out, you didn't have enough to pay for what you had used and what you had to eat. Because then I had what they give you for you to get your food with, some old pluck tickets. That's what they gave you now, to get your food. Then they stopped that. Then he went to borrowing money, but they were borrowing money on you and you didn't know nothing about it. That's how these people's land got away from them, because he couldn't meet the bill. And when he knew anything, the people's land was gone away from them because he had done burnt the money and couldn't pay the bill. | 3:41 |
Leslie Brown | Now who did the weighing? | 4:29 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 4:29 |
Leslie Brown | Who did the weighing? | 4:29 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Who did the what? | 4:29 |
Leslie Brown | Who weighed the cotton? Who weighed the bales of cotton to determine— | 4:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Oh. When you weighed the bales of cotton, you carried them to Tillery's. | 4:37 |
Emma W. Dancy | To the gin. | 4:40 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | To the gin, and then he weighed it. Then when he weighed it, they let it stay there, and then they'd sell it. You'd carry it there. The ones that worked, they carried it and then you'd gin it. It stayed there at the gin house, then the man that you're working with, he did all the—He knew everything. | 4:46 |
Leslie Brown | So he kept all the books? | 5:00 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah. He kept all the books. But after I got married, they had to let—He had to settle with my husband when he got ready for them to settle, because he told them he would sleep there with him, eat breakfast with him. He'd eat dinner and then he'd eat supper, then he'd stay there all night. Said, "Because you're going to tell me something." Because he didn't take nothing off Whites or any Blacks. He stood up for his and he settled with him. Now he would clear money every year. Every year, he cleared money. | 5:01 |
Leslie Brown | How did he stand up? What did he do that was standing up? | 5:50 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | He talked to him and tell him what he was going to do and what—Then he'd pay him and he knew what he had done. He had done all the work and his family had worked out of all the year, and he was going to have his money because he knew he had it. | 5:54 |
Leslie Brown | Do you remember one time when he did that? | 6:08 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I remember he done it every year. Not one time, every year he did it. | 6:11 |
Leslie Brown | I'm looking for an example. | 6:15 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Emma, can you help me get it? | 6:21 |
Emma W. Dancy | What? | 6:23 |
Leslie Brown | A specific time when he did something, one specific time. | 6:26 |
Emma W. Dancy | Oh. | 6:31 |
Leslie Brown | What do you remember? Just an example. | 6:31 |
Emma W. Dancy | Well I was small then anyway. | 6:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | You weren't small when he made all them—turning bales of cotton and 300 bags of peas, because y'all helped. Y'all the ones who made him. But I know he got hurt that year. You and your brother and your sisters, and your other brother, y'all did all the work that year. | 6:39 |
Emma W. Dancy | One thing he did, and I guess we helped him out some then, he would tear—He would stand up there and tell them how much he had made and he knew the price of everything. And he wanted his share, and he would always—It would come out that he would always pay him so much of the money. I wonder what year that was. What year Papa got hurt? I don't know when that was. | 7:00 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I don't know what year that he got hurt. | 7:44 |
Leslie Brown | What happened to him that he got hurt? | 7:45 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | The mule ran over him. The first time, I think it broke his ribs. | 7:47 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, the first time didn't break his ribs. No, it didn't break his ribs. It broke his toes. | 7:55 |
Leslie Brown | Broke his toes. | 7:59 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. And the second time, it broke his ribs and his wrist. | 8:00 |
Leslie Brown | And who helped with the crop when he was hurt? | 8:09 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | The children. | 8:14 |
Emma W. Dancy | His kids. | 8:14 |
Leslie Brown | Who did? | 8:15 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | His kids did it. Yeah, when he got his ribs and things broke, he had done—The crops were made. | 8:15 |
Emma W. Dancy | That was in the fall. | 8:23 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And that was in the fall, when the—That was in the fall, and everything was made. Then me and the children did the work, picking the cotton and shaking the peas, and pulling the corn and everything else, to finish having the crop. | 8:24 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | The other time he got hurt down there, fall one of them— | 8:45 |
Emma W. Dancy | In April. | 8:50 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Just until the spring, because it wasn't the spring of the year when he got hurt before. And they carried him to the hospital and they went there. They went there. And my next oldest son and her brother, next to her, they're the ones who—And her sister, older than she is, those who carried the crop on. That's the year that made the 300 bags of peas and 20 bales of cotton. Had made more than he ever had made in his life. And the people around him—One of the ladies said, "Raymond been making a good crop, but he ain't got to do nothing this year because those children don't know what they're doing." I said, "You shouldn't say that." I said, "Because you don't know what they could do." | 8:52 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | In the summertime, the crop started to growing. She came back to me and told me, said, "I take my words back." Said, "Because those children have the prettiest crop it is in Polkville." I said, "Thank you, Jesus." I said, "I told you, you didn't know what you were talking about." I said, "You talk too much anyhow." (laughs) | 9:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | She busted out—She laughed at me. And then when the end of the year came, she said, "Sue, y'all ain't going to ever get through picking cotton. You sure done shook the peas, but y'all didn't—" Us didn't finish that cotton until way up in the spring. Twenty bales of cotton, and 300 bags of peas. And I told Rick— | 10:00 |
Emma W. Dancy | Right by hand. | 10:25 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. Picked it all by hand. Sure did. | 10:26 |
Leslie Brown | You sound very proud of your children. | 10:29 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I am proud of my children. So proud of them I don't know what to do, because I pray for them every morning and God Almighty say—Every morning, I pray for my children and tell God to thank them for leaving me where they left me. Yes, sir. | 10:34 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And so, I tell them right now, I say, "I've been through the thick and I've been through the thin." I said, "Now this my time to go." I stayed home and raised all of my children. Didn't go nowhere but stayed right there with them, and when they got up and go outside, I started to going out some. But still, I stayed right there. I didn't start to going nowhere until after my husband died. And after he died, I started to traveling, and I been traveling every since. | 10:44 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | She and my son named me Road Ruster, y'all can call me every thing you want to. I said, "When I get ready to go, I'm going." Said, "Mama, I don't want you to go. You sure have done your part, and when you made us, you made a good job of raising us. And I'm so proud of you, I don't know what to do." Said, "I'm proud of you." I said, "Thank y'all." | 11:23 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | So my mother went through the same thing that I went through, hard labor. I tell them now, "Thank you, Jesus. The Lord has brought us from a long ways." So many times, you didn't know where you were going to get nothing, but the Lord made a way. | 11:55 |
Leslie Brown | Could you tell me about your mother? | 12:24 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | My mother? | 12:27 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 12:27 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | You want to know her name? Emma Nevilles. | 12:30 |
Leslie Brown | And what was she like? | 12:32 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 12:34 |
Leslie Brown | What was she like? | 12:34 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well I favor her. I always say I'm just like her. She was a nice woman. | 12:37 |
Emma W. Dancy | But she never worked like you had worked. | 12:42 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, she didn't work hard as I worked. | 12:43 |
Emma W. Dancy | That's what she's talking about. | 12:45 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because when—After us got us some side, us didn't allow her to work. Us let her stay to the house. Just prepared meals for us. She would fuss and talk about when us go out after find us crop, us would go out and work for other people. And she said she wanted money like us. I said, "Well Ma, us making money. You spend it like you want to." I said, "You ain't got to go. You just stay here and have us some meals when us get you." So she did it. And when they got ready to wash, us would help her wash, because didn't want her to do nothing so much. | 12:49 |
Leslie Brown | Where did you learn to farm? | 13:23 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 13:23 |
Leslie Brown | Where did you learn to farm? Who taught you how to pick cotton? | 13:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Who taught me how to pick— | 13:39 |
Leslie Brown | Who taught you how to share—pick peanuts? | 13:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I taught myself, because I saw my uncles—And I was raised up with my uncles and things, and what I saw them doing. I watched them, that's how I did it. | 13:44 |
Leslie Brown | So you worked with your uncles when you first started working? | 13:52 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah. When I first started working, I worked with my uncle and my grand people. And I started to picking cotton when I was 10 years old. The first day I went in the field to pick cotton, in 10 years, I picked 110. Then I went on picking cotton like that. I picked about 250, 40, 60, 70, 80, 95 and on on like that, every day. Every day. If I didn't pick that 200 pounds of cotton, I was just as mad with myself as I could be. | 13:54 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | My uncle told me, he said, "You sure is crazy." Said, "You crazy." He couldn't pick cotton though. Couldn't half pick no cotton. Because what he did, he got to—out working it, and told his daddy to hire somebody at one of his places and he'd pay them. Said because he couldn't pick cotton. Guess that's the way I did for chopping. | 14:37 |
Emma W. Dancy | He did public work, right? | 14:59 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Uh-huh. And chopping. I started to— | 15:02 |
Leslie Brown | Who did public work? | 15:03 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | My uncle was doing public— | 15:04 |
Leslie Brown | Your uncle did public— | 15:05 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. Then when I was 11 years old, that's when I started in the fields, chopping. And I chopped until I got—Well, I've done my 70 and 80 years old. And I mean, I picked 200 pounds of cotton after I got well up there in my 70s. | 15:05 |
Leslie Brown | That's a lot of cotton. | 15:28 |
Emma W. Dancy | It is a lot of cotton. | 15:28 |
Leslie Brown | Two hundred pounds is a lot of cotton. | 15:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Or like in fall, prob give them 300 one day. If it hadn't rained, I would have got it. Went over it. | 15:33 |
Leslie Brown | You said that you remember your grandfather. | 15:47 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 15:48 |
Leslie Brown | Do you remember your grandfather? | 15:49 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah, I remember him. | 15:52 |
Leslie Brown | What was he like? | 15:54 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, he was a nice, quiet man. And he was the deacon of the church. He was a good Christian, just loved to whoop good. A little whooperholic. (Weathersbee and Dancy laugh). | 15:56 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | But God knows I hated that man until I got up—until I found Jesus. | 16:11 |
Leslie Brown | Why? | 16:22 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Until I found Jesus. That's when I got to loving him. And do you know I was crazy enough to tell him about it? | 16:24 |
Leslie Brown | And what did he do? | 16:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | He ain't done nothing. Told me he wished he would have known it sooner. Said, "I would have whooped you again." I said, "Well now if you get at me now, I'm going to run and you can't catch me." I said—because when I first told him—I told him, I said, "Pa." I said, "I got something to tell—" I called him Pa. I said, "Pa, I got something to tell you." He said, "What is it? I know it's something foolish." I said, "This here ain't foolish, Pa." | 16:35 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | So I started to telling him. He said, "I wish the Lord I had known. What you hating me—" I said, "You and your brother, Ron Lottie, they hate y'all too." He said, "Why?" I said, "Because you whooped all the time, and when I talked to Berranda—" I said, "He snapped at you like he got to cut your head off, and I didn't like it." | 16:55 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I said, "I told Juan to—" His wife, Berranda wife, her name Pat Able. I said, "I told Sister Pat and Ma about it." Then he asked Ma, "Vi, you didn't tell me." She said, "She didn't tell me to tell you and I didn't tell you." So I just hated him. But after I found Christ, I loved him, and loved him dearly until he died. If I had a firecracker, I reckon (laughing) [indistinct 00:17:51]. Lord have mercy. | 17:17 |
Leslie Brown | Did your grandfather farm too? | 17:57 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah. Us were farming with him then. My father was farming with him then. | 18:00 |
Leslie Brown | Was your grandfather from here? | 18:06 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah. He was from here. I don't know where he was born to, now. I don't know where none of them were born. I know mama was born in Halifax County. My mother. | 18:08 |
Leslie Brown | And your father? | 18:16 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I don't think he was born in Halifax County. I don't know where he was born. No, he was born somewhere. Where they call them—an area in Spain. Way up there somewhere, that's where he was born. | 18:16 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | —years old. | 18:16 |
Leslie Brown | When you were 14, you joined the church? | 18:41 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. And I been in the church 77 years. Then I started to working in the church. The first thing, I was an usher. Then they took me from my ushering, put me a mother, and I been that every since. I don't know which year now, don't ask me that. | 18:42 |
Leslie Brown | It's been a long time. | 19:15 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, sir. It's been a long time. Raised up all of mine. When I—I raised up all of my children when I was in the church. And raised them up to go to church and Sunday school. The boys went away from it, but they—Some of the boys held on to it, and some of them didn't. But all the girls held on to it. | 19:16 |
Leslie Brown | What kind of work did you do at the church? | 19:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I told you, I was ushering in the church and a mother. I'm on the mother board. | 19:39 |
Leslie Brown | Would you—I don't know how to ask the question. Describe what that means. What does an usher do? What did an usher do? What did it mean to be an usher in the church? | 19:44 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Usher, that's like, the people coming to church, you'll take them and carry them to their seats. And after you seat them, you go back to where you came from. | 19:55 |
Leslie Brown | How did you get selected to be an usher? | 20:06 |
Emma W. Dancy | Church, by the church. | 20:09 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | The chapel. Remember that church? And they put me to be an usher because I— | 20:10 |
Leslie Brown | So you're selected? | 20:18 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Oh, yeah. They elected me to be an usher. Then they took me off the ushering board, and elected me to be a mother of the church. Well, the mother tells the people—Like, if you were in the church and if I see you out there doing something wrong, I'll go to you and talk to you. And if you didn't stop, I'll carry you before the church and I'll handle you in the church. | 20:18 |
Leslie Brown | Did you ever do that? | 20:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, I ain't never carried nothing for the church. | 20:40 |
Leslie Brown | Did your father [indistinct 00:20:44]- | 20:42 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because all—Yeah, when I talked to him. Because he knew how I was. I talked to him. He said, "Well I'm going to stop because I know you'll sure carry me for it." I said, "I certainly will." | 20:43 |
Leslie Brown | What kinds of things did you catch people doing? | 20:53 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Dancing and things. The children dancing right down in the church, and I said, "If y'all don't stop that, I'm going to carry you before the church." I said, "You hear what I said?" They said, "Yes, ma'am." And they told me, "Ms. Sue, I ain't going to do that no more because I know you, you don't have no foolish in you. The [indistinct 00:21:16] standing up there, crying." I said, "I'm going to tell you, if you go up there crying, I'm going to tell them to slap you and make you stop." | 20:58 |
Leslie Brown | What would happen when someone was carried before the church? What happened to them? | 21:25 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | You got to beg pardon for doing what you— | 21:31 |
Emma W. Dancy | They counsel them. | 21:33 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | —You got to counsel like. And you got to beg pardon for what you did. And what I said was true, and you weren't going to do it no more. | 21:34 |
Leslie Brown | Why else was the church important? | 21:48 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Church important? | 21:53 |
Leslie Brown | Why was the church important? Why was the church important to you? | 21:54 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because I can hear the Word. When I go there, I can hear the Word. And then I enjoy it. | 21:59 |
Leslie Brown | What do you enjoy about church? | 22:08 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Put this here in here. Put it in here. What the Lord gives me, that's the reason I enjoy the church. Because when I go there, I feel the Spirit, and if I get happy, I shout. Sure will. Don't know why but nobody say nothing, I'll holler and shout all I want to do. Don't say nothing. Don't get me, just let me go. | 22:11 |
Leslie Brown | What church did you go to? | 22:33 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Galilee Baptist Church. | 22:34 |
Emma W. Dancy | That's her membership. | 22:35 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's where my membership is. I go to—Galilee is my membership, but I go to all the—Let me see. I go to Cherry Chapel, Chestnut and Mount Gilbert, and Little Zion. And what did this here church up the street? | 22:36 |
Emma W. Dancy | Royal Light. | 22:57 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Royal Light II. That's a—Royal Light is a Holy church, but I go there sometimes because I like—I like to go where they are. | 22:59 |
Leslie Brown | Was your church only on Sundays, was there church on other days too? | 23:07 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, on Sundays. On Sunday. On Saturday, they just called the council. You go there and pay your dues on Saturday, and Sunday, you go to their service. | 23:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | Worship service. | 23:26 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah, the worship service. And then after then, when August come, they have revival. They used to have them in the daytime, but they start on Tuesday night and go on until Friday night. You came right by Galilee. You see right there? | 23:27 |
Leslie Brown | Yes, I do. | 23:47 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, that's my church right there. It's a mixed church. You get to where you passed up here, a little church. It passes up on Chestnut Grove. And after I go to those other churches, then no more round until the round comes again. Sometimes I make the whole month of Sundays. Some months I make it and some of them, the fourth Sunday, I don't go nowhere but at home. | 23:49 |
Leslie Brown | Now did everybody used to go to church? | 24:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, sir. They don't go to church now like they used to, honey. You used to go to church and you'd get up there, near about to Galilee, you'd hear that singing and going on, and that singing and praying going on, honey. Where you'll walk yourself to death trying to get there. And I mean, they were walking. They weren't riding. They had to walk. | 24:34 |
Emma W. Dancy | They drove me in a wagon. | 25:04 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. And when they didn't—Sometimes, you carried two pair of shoes. You had a good pair to walk in and one hanging on the back to put on when you get to church. But you went to church, you had a—They don't have no time like they did along then. I mean, we had one good time. But you don't have them now because don't many of them go to church now. | 25:04 |
Leslie Brown | So church was a place where you would meet other people? | 25:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, that's right. That's right. Now God knows— | 25:33 |
Emma W. Dancy | She ran fellowship. | 25:34 |
Leslie Brown | Worship and fellowship? | 25:38 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. Yes, sir. | 25:41 |
Leslie Brown | What other events were there at the church? What were the big church holidays? | 25:45 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Homecoming, ain't it, Emma? | 25:50 |
Emma W. Dancy | Usually the holidays like Easter. And we have homecoming. We have women's day, we have men's day, and we have youth's day. Now like this coming Sunday, first Sunday is our church anniversary. For 113 years, that church been there. | 25:53 |
Leslie Brown | Has the church [indistinct 00:26:28]— | 26:19 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And I'm the oldest one in the church. | 26:30 |
Leslie Brown | Are you really? | 26:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | At Galilee Baptist Church, the oldest one in there. And the oldest one in my family. | 26:30 |
Leslie Brown | Has the church always been in the same place? | 26:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No. It started in a brick house. It was started then. | 26:41 |
Emma W. Dancy | I wish you could meet this lady up there in the brick house. | 26:48 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Millie Davis. | 26:56 |
Emma W. Dancy | Her name is Millie Davis. Because she writes a lot and she could give you a history. I'm telling you. | 26:57 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 27:05 |
Leslie Brown | We called her. We called her. | 27:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | You did? | 27:11 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | She didn't want to do it, did she? | 27:13 |
Leslie Brown | Uh-uh. No, she wouldn't talk to us. | 27:16 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, I declare. That woman knows something. | 27:18 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 27:18 |
Emma W. Dancy | Because she writes a lot. She does a lot of writing herself. You know? | 27:23 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | She goes to bed— | 27:23 |
Emma W. Dancy | Things that other people forgot, she has it written down. | 27:28 |
Leslie Brown | I'll try her again though. I think I'm going to come back and try to talk to her again. [indistinct 00:27:45]— | 27:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | It's like, she goes to bed early. She gets up around about 12:00 and works, and then around about 4:00 in the morning, writing and doing. That woman can tell you something because she has it written out and everything. | 27:44 |
Leslie Brown | So you said the church is 113 years old and you're the oldest member. | 28:06 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Oldest member in there. | 28:10 |
Leslie Brown | How did you decide which church you were going to go to when you started going to church? | 28:11 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well you see, all my family belonged to that church and I joined where they were. Where they belonged. And I ain't got to leave that until the Lord calls me. I'll stay right there. | 28:18 |
Leslie Brown | Do you remember your baptism? | 28:33 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Remember my baptism? | 28:34 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 28:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I can't remember the year too. | 28:39 |
Leslie Brown | Okay. | 28:40 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | But I remember Reverend— | 28:42 |
Emma W. Dancy | Do you remember how old you were when you got baptized? | 28:45 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I was 14 years old. Fourteen years old when I got baptized. | 28:46 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. And who baptized you? | 28:55 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Reverend—what they call—Reverend Cooper or whatever. | 28:56 |
Emma W. Dancy | Huh? I don't know that. | 28:58 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | It's a Reverend Cooper. That's all I know. | 28:58 |
Leslie Brown | You weren't there then. | 28:58 |
Emma W. Dancy | Before my day. | 28:58 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Reverend Cooper. | 28:58 |
Leslie Brown | Where did you go down in the—Did you get baptized in the swamp? | 29:10 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Sure did. If you come from Halifax and after you pass all of those houses before you get up there to Trinity Chapel Church, I was baptized in that hole right there. | 29:13 |
Emma W. Dancy | You got baptized there too? | 29:22 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah, I got baptized there, when the water came—That summer that water had—that rain, that water came right up there, down there. Because I used to be scared of water. But honey, that morning, I couldn't get in that water fast enough. And I wasn't a bit scared as I am right now. | 29:26 |
Leslie Brown | What were you wearing? | 29:45 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Just had on a—I think I had on dresses. | 29:50 |
Emma W. Dancy | Something like a gown. | 29:52 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And a— | 29:53 |
Leslie Brown | Was it long? | 29:53 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. Then you had a rag on your head. And cotton in your ears to keep the water from going in there. | 29:55 |
Leslie Brown | What did people sing? | 30:05 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 30:06 |
Leslie Brown | What did they sing? What did the people sing? | 30:07 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Sing? | 30:09 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. What song? | 30:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | 'Wade in the Water' back then. | 30:11 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | 'Wade in the Water', going to be baptized. | 30:14 |
Leslie Brown | Did a lot of people come to the baptism? | 30:20 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Ooh, yes, ma'am. They were all the way around that pond and all up there on that bridge. All the way around the pond and up there on that bridge was full, and down the road. Yes. | 30:22 |
Leslie Brown | Members of your church and other— | 30:34 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Other people's church. | 30:35 |
Leslie Brown | —other people's churches too? | 30:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. Yes, sir. They would run to get to that baptizing that morning. | 30:37 |
Emma W. Dancy | And they used to be all out of, like I would say, North Hampton. | 30:43 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's right. They used to come from Halifax and all like that. | 30:47 |
Emma W. Dancy | Come to Baptizing Sunday. | 30:50 |
Leslie Brown | What brought so many people to a baptism? | 30:54 |
Emma W. Dancy | I don't know, really. | 31:02 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | They said that that was the first church started, a Baptist. All the other churches, they went from the Baptist. All the other different denominations. | 31:02 |
Leslie Brown | What did you do for fun when you were young? | 31:18 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Do I do for fun? | 31:22 |
Leslie Brown | What did you do for fun? | 31:23 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Play. Run in the woods and climb trees and everything. | 31:25 |
Leslie Brown | With who? | 31:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | With my uncle. A younger uncle than I was, and my aunt. On that tree that I was a [indistinct 00:31:40]—If a tree was that large, I'd go half way up there, the furthest I could get up there is those limbs that sit up there. Played ball, jumped rope and all of that. And usually, you'd have a seesaw. Just like, this little here thing and you'd have boards on there. One would be on that end and one would be on that one. And Lord, that was my Heaven. I'd get on that board and one of them would go way up and come back down, way up, come back down. And Lord have mercy, jumping with boards, up and down. And ain't missed it. Ain't missed it now. Ain't missed that board. And that was a holiday for me, because I ain't had no time since then. | 31:32 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Now children don't know nothing about that now. | 32:35 |
Leslie Brown | [indistinct 00:32:38]? | 32:37 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Children don't know nothing about no playing like us played. Then I made mud cakes. Go out and get grass and make doll babies and—Pull that grass up and the root of them, that would be the hair. And that's what us played with. | 32:38 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And us had a gloriful time. A crowd of us children would get together—Us here now, growing up, us would have church. Us children would get together and have church. | 32:54 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And when August would come, us would go—Us people would be gone. Us go and get the food and cooking, and have dinner like they had out at the church. That's how I learned how to cook. | 33:12 |
Leslie Brown | That's how you learned how to cook? | 33:33 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's how I learned how to cook. | 33:34 |
Emma W. Dancy | Cooking behind grandma back? | 33:34 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. What food Dee left for us to eat, and he'd come back there, that food there. "Y'all ain't hungry?" "Not much, went out in the food and got us some corn and boiled some. We ain't hungry." We done killed chicken. (laughs) | 33:41 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because I was the one did all the cooking, because I'm the one who learned. I'd been done made biscuits. Cooked a pan of biscuits and fried that chicken, and cook. And all of us would eat. And like the apples and things, the [indistinct 00:34:09]—like the apples and things. Get those apples and peel them, make an apple dumpling and all that stuff. | 33:51 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Different child from a different house, some would get a cup of sugar from Dee's house and one would get one from that. Dee would get a chicken this time and the other one would get a chicken this time. They'd go around until they got the chicken. I did all the cooking. | 34:16 |
Leslie Brown | Now if there—These were children that lived— | 34:43 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Lived around us, around the family. There was a family that lived around together. | 34:43 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. Were there a lot of families that lived around together? | 34:49 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, sir. There was a lot then. All of them weren't far apart. You could stand in your house and talk to somebody else over there, like that. | 34:56 |
Leslie Brown | So the houses weren't that far away? | 35:00 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No. No, they weren't that far away. | 35:02 |
Leslie Brown | Did you go to school? | 35:11 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes. | 35:11 |
Leslie Brown | You said, "Yeah." What were you going to say? | 35:11 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I went to school, but I stopped out of school when I was the third grade. | 35:16 |
Leslie Brown | What do you remember about school? | 35:24 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I don't remember nothing. I was good in school when I was going. But the reason I stopped from school, I was the oldest child, and every time that my mother wanted to go to visit somewhere, I had to stay home and tend to the baby. And I got mad and I just stopped out of school because I couldn't go to school like the other children, so I stopped going to school. | 35:27 |
Leslie Brown | Did you ever have to stay out of school to work? To do other work? | 35:59 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, when I came along, going to school, you didn't ever start school until October or November. But along then, you done about harvest your crop, then us could go to school then, until the spring came. When the spring came, they turned out in May. | 36:00 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And when they turned out in May, the cotton had got up large enough to chop, and when us came out of school that evening, us go went out in the field that evening. I didn't stay out of school for no work because they didn't never start school along then until late. After folks done harvesting the crop, that's when they started school. | 36:15 |
Emma W. Dancy | Hm. | 36:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 36:31 |
Emma W. Dancy | Huh? | 36:33 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, that's the way they started. | 36:34 |
Leslie Brown | You didn't know that? | 36:34 |
Emma W. Dancy | Uh-uh. | 36:34 |
Leslie Brown | No? | 36:34 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, she did. | 36:34 |
Emma W. Dancy | I sure didn't. | 36:34 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 36:34 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because all the time y'all were going, I think it started in September, didn't it? | 36:41 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 36:43 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because it started in September and stopped in August. | 36:46 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. So you stopped school in third grade and— | 36:53 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. | 36:56 |
Leslie Brown | —and you went to work. | 36:56 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Went to work, honey, and tending to babies. | 36:57 |
Emma W. Dancy | She knows a poem right now, she learned when she was in school. | 37:01 |
Leslie Brown | You're going to tell us what the poem is? What's the—You said you learned a poem in school. | 37:11 |
Emma W. Dancy | Mm-hmm. | 37:13 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. | 37:13 |
Leslie Brown | What's that? What poem was that? | 37:14 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Shall I meet my sainted mother in her home beyond the sky? Will I see the little light beaming from her tender loving eye? Will she know me when I meet her? For I have changed so certainly now. Will she see her loving fair daughter, in this old wrinkly bra? Will the bell be rang from Heaven, with the angels' songs again? Will my mother there be waiting, there be waiting looking so mild? Will she press me to her bosom, as she did once when I was a child? All I suffered since mother's gone, will it be on tomorrow when I stand in mother's side? | 37:16 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Then I know another one. There is a green hill far away, without a city wall. | 38:05 |
Emma W. Dancy | The topic of that one is 'Green Hill Far Away'. | 38:12 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | There is a green hill far away, without these city walls, where the dear Lord was crucified. Who died to save us all. Oh, Dearly, Oh, Dearly, as they loved, and we must love him too. Trust in His redeemest blood and try His works to do. We may not know, we cannot tell what pains He had to bear, but we believe He was for us. He hung and suffered there. He died that we might be forgiven. He died to make us good, that we may go at last to Heaven, saved by his precious blood. There is no ever good enough to pay the price of sin. He only could unlock the gate of Heaven and let us in. | 38:18 |
Leslie Brown | Now how come you remember those from school? | 39:12 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I don't know how I did it to keep them, to save my life, but I kept them. I don't know how did I keep them. | 39:14 |
Emma W. Dancy | You sure did. | 39:21 |
Leslie Brown | Did you recite them often? | 39:23 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 39:24 |
Leslie Brown | Did you recite them often? Did you say that? | 39:26 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I think I did. I kept it up. I kept saying them and didn't forget them. | 39:31 |
Emma W. Dancy | [indistinct 00:39:35]. | 39:33 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Then people knew that I knew them, and then people would get me to go different places to say them. Because I said them at last week's communion service. And Gary said he couldn't have thought that up. He had to say one last week and he couldn't have thought of it. I sit down and think, I said, "Now how can I remember that so good?" | 39:36 |
Emma W. Dancy | That's good. | 40:06 |
Leslie Brown | It is. | 40:06 |
Emma W. Dancy | That's good. | 40:09 |
Leslie Brown | It's very good. | 40:11 |
Emma W. Dancy | She remembered she learned her ABC's, backwards. | 40:13 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Backwards and forwards. | 40:15 |
Emma W. Dancy | I said, "I never learned mine backwards, I learned my forward." But never learned mine backwards. | 40:15 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | A-B-C-D-E-F-G-H-I-J-K-L-M-N-O-P-Q-R-S-T-U-V-W-X-Y-Z. Z-Y-X-W-V-U-T-S-R-Q-P-O-N-M-L-K-J-I-H-G-F-E-D-C-B-A. | 40:27 |
Leslie Brown | Did you learn arithmetic too? While in school. | 40:46 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I didn't learn much arithmetic, but I can count, I'll tell you that much. | 40:51 |
Emma W. Dancy | She learned to count. | 40:51 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And I learned some— | 40:51 |
Emma W. Dancy | I know about that, she knows how to count. You can't cheat her out her money's worth. [indistinct 00:41:02]— | 40:56 |
Leslie Brown | That's why I was asking, because you told me that— | 40:59 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, you can't cheat me out my money now. | 41:05 |
Leslie Brown | —We were talking about the—when settling up the property and— | 41:05 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Uh-uh. No, you can't cheat me out my money. Because Emma them tell me, they said, "Hm. I ain't never seen nobody like you. Can't nobody cheat you out that penny of your money." I said, "Well, I keep that in my head." He say, "You sure do keep that in your head." | 41:09 |
Leslie Brown | Did you learn any history? | 41:27 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, I didn't know nothing about no history. Didn't know nothing about no history. I don't think it was along then. It was the second grade, third grade and fourth grade, and fifth grade and sixth grade, all like that. Because I don't think a lot of them going to school didn't go up until the eighth grade, I don't think. Maybe. | 41:32 |
Leslie Brown | How was your life different from your mother's life? You talked about how it was the same, how was your life different from your mother's life? | 41:51 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I don't—Let me see now. How could I get that right? Well, my mother and all was a—She was born a little after slavery, I think. Because when I was born, to freedom. Because the things the way she worked and the way she did them, I didn't have to do that. | 42:03 |
Leslie Brown | How did she have—How was her work different? | 42:29 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, you see along then, just like, the names and things. The names and things that—A whole lot of that that those people got when she came along, it was slavery folks' names. Because today, us don't know who us is or what us name is, today. Us don't know what which the last name is, all us just know is we're together. | 42:33 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because some of them got the Edmond—Edmond's was the farmer, and the man worked on was an Edmond. And all the people on my family's side are Edmond, Edmond, Edmond, Johnson. And all of them like that. | 43:02 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | So we don't know what us names is, what us last names is. Know what the first name is, but don't know the last. | 43:16 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | You see, when they were coming on that slavery— | 43:26 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Now just like I had all those children, they'd have sold me to another White man. A breeding woman, that's what they did, sold them to one White man. If I had a lot of children, they just sold me over there to that man. Then somebody else just sold him to that one. And that looks like to me, just crazy. [indistinct 00:44:00]— | 43:31 |
Leslie Brown | But they didn't do that in freedom? | 43:59 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, didn't do that in freedom. Did them just like they were brute size and things. I could whoop them now for it. (laughs) Whoop them right now. Right, right now, because that was something for somebody to do people like that. When you go to pray—Told me when you went to pray, they allowed you to pray. People prayed, but they had to close the door and had the cat hold it to help shut them out. Because if they went in there and heard them praying, they'd go in there and beat them. You mean—What come of this? | 44:01 |
Leslie Brown | Churches. | 44:40 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I said what come of those mean folks like that did people like that? | 44:49 |
Leslie Brown | They still go to church though. | 44:51 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hm? | 44:53 |
Leslie Brown | They still went to church though. | 44:53 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | They went, but they didn't want you to learn how. I don't think—That's what it was. Scared you might learn something. | 44:55 |
Emma W. Dancy | Maybe they thought it was too much freedom. | 45:01 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. Too much freedom. | 45:01 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. Well I'm through now. | 45:01 |
Leslie Brown | Now, who told you these stories? Who passed—Who told you these stories? | 45:19 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | What? | 45:22 |
Leslie Brown | Who told you the stories about slavery time? | 45:22 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | My older parents told me about them. Told me how they did them. Because these older parents told the ones around—These parents were in slavery, so they told them. And then I heard them talking about it. | 45:23 |
Leslie Brown | Did you tell stories to your children too? | 45:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | What, tell them how things were? | 45:43 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 45:45 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I certainly did. I sure did. | 45:45 |
Leslie Brown | When you would tell them stories, what would you tell them about? | 45:55 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I would tell them about different things that my mother and father told me. What to do and what not to do. | 46:01 |
Leslie Brown | Like what? | 46:06 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Like bad things. | 46:08 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I said, "Did he call you chicken?" I said, "Don't care because you won't get in no trouble." | 0:03 |
Leslie Brown | You told them not to fight? | 0:08 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Not to fight, not unless somebody fight—jump on them and fight them. I said, "But if anybody jump on you and fight you [indistinct 00:00:18]," I said, "Fight them, because if we don't fight them," I said, "Grandma whoop you when you come home." | 0:08 |
Leslie Brown | My mother told me the same thing. | 0:25 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Huh? | 0:26 |
Leslie Brown | My mother told me the same thing. | 0:26 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's right. That's right. You ain't bothering nobody and somebody come and jump on you and you got to step that up and fight them back. | 0:27 |
Leslie Brown | Did you ever fight back? | 0:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Me? | 0:38 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 0:38 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, ma'am. | 0:41 |
Leslie Brown | Tell me about when you fought back? | 0:42 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | When I was going to school. I didn't bother no bother. I didn't bother nobody. I didn't bother no children. But when he got to cross my path and jump on me, I fight him. And that boy couldn't whoop me, and that girl couldn't whoop me because I knew how to knock just like a boy. | 0:46 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | All the boys and everything said, "Don't bother Sue, because Sue, she can whoop you. Because I done tried. So you're better not to bother, because she can whoop her." Said, "She know how to knock just like a boy. She know how to wrestle just like a boy so you're better not to bother because she sure can get the best thing." I told myself, "I don't bother nobody, but if anybody come across my path, I'll tell you, let me know and you keep on doing jump on me", I said, "and you're going to get it." | 1:01 |
Leslie Brown | You ever fight with anybody White? | 1:42 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No. Us didn't have—did you know, how are we going to fight anybody White when go—never around no White folk, never around no White folk. | 1:45 |
Leslie Brown | Do you have any dealings with White people at all? | 1:53 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | After I got up old and grown. | 1:56 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm, and what— | 2:03 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | All the White people, after I got up and had me dealing with them, all of them treat me nice. I'll tell you still some folks, I don't like them. I like White people, because why? The Lord didn't tell us to hate nobody, told us to love every part. He didn't say what color. That's the way I am. I love White, Colored and all. But if you treat me wrong, she going to tell you about it. She going to get you straight, damn sure. | 2:04 |
Leslie Brown | What about people who were treated wrong? | 2:36 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hmm? | 2:40 |
Leslie Brown | What about people who were treated wrong? Did White people treat everybody right? | 2:42 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, they didn't. No, they didn't treat everybody right. I reckon sometimes they would [indistinct 00:03:05] in the summer. No, White people didn't treat everybody right. | 3:00 |
Leslie Brown | Who did they treat wrong? And why did they treat them wrong? | 3:04 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I don't know how come they treat them wrong. They didn't let them say anything and tell them and say nothing to them, treat them wrong. You stand up for yourself, people not going to treat you wrong. Just come right out and tell them who you is and what you got taken, what you all going to take. I might treat you nice and I want you to treat me the same way I treat you. Because if you don't, I'm going to tell you about yourself and then a new thing, so you going together. | 3:09 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's what my husband would. He treat White people right, and if they've done anything to him and he knows it's all right, he'll go with them just as quick as he would go with me or you. And he's still being fair here, til you don't bother him because he's not got no say. | 3:39 |
Leslie Brown | Now, why didn't Black people stand up to White people? | 3:57 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Huh? | 4:08 |
Leslie Brown | There was some Black people who wouldn't stand up to White people. | 4:09 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, there were some of them wouldn't stand up to White people, some of them done some of the White just like they did to Colored. (rooster crows) | 4:12 |
Leslie Brown | And why wouldn't they stand up? | 4:18 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I reckon they were scared of them, I reckon. Oh no, I reckon they were. Must have been. | 4:21 |
Leslie Brown | Were you scared of them? | 4:27 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Me? | 4:28 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 4:29 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, I ain't never seen—I'm a tell you because I ain't never seen no one I was scared. Because if I treat you right, if you don't treat me right then it make me be scared of you. | 4:29 |
Leslie Brown | Did people have reasons to be scared sometimes? | 4:43 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I don't see no reason they had to be scared of you. I don't see no reason nobody had to be scared of nobody. | 4:47 |
Leslie Brown | When they say that Black people were supposed to stay in their place, what did that mean? | 5:02 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That people started to stay in their place, what is that? You tend to your business and I tend to mine, that's what that been. | 5:08 |
Emma W. Dancy | [indistinct 00:05:22] the Black people. | 5:21 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's right. | 5:21 |
Leslie Brown | When they were told to stay in their place, what did that mean? | 5:21 |
Emma W. Dancy | Because there was one that didn't stand up for his self. I mean, he stood up for his self. | 5:22 |
Leslie Brown | So when you stood up for yourself, you were stepping out of your place? | 5:29 |
Emma W. Dancy | Mm-hmm. | 5:33 |
Leslie Brown | And what happened to people who did that? | 5:35 |
Emma W. Dancy | Well, sometime, I remember I think, there has been—or the White people started against them and hurt them. | 5:38 |
Leslie Brown | And what happened? | 5:55 |
Emma W. Dancy | Nothing happened a whole lot of time because the Black didn't know who did it. | 6:00 |
Leslie Brown | They didn't know who did it? | 6:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | No. | 6:10 |
Leslie Brown | So there's nothing they could do about it? | 6:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | Nothing they could do about it. | 6:11 |
Leslie Brown | What kinds of things used to happen? | 6:13 |
Emma W. Dancy | Beat them up. Beat the Black guy up. | 6:15 |
Leslie Brown | Anybody ever hurt bad? You remember anybody every been hurt real bad? | 6:23 |
Emma W. Dancy | No, not as I know, sorry. | 6:27 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's like with the Mrs. White, Hattie White had a son. I don't know what Keefers had done. They run him all day, up there to Tillery. He got away and got done here to Spring Hill somehow or another. And he come and shot him, took a flashlight and hold that light on him. Or something like hold that light on and shot that boy and killed him. | 6:34 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | They didn't find him til the next day. The people were working, hauling them pea poles for the shaked pea. You had just stacked the pea, and now you're holding the pole and then you got to dig a hole and put them in the ground. And that's how they found him, laying right out there on the edge of the field, dead. He'd been out there all night. | 7:00 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | She didn't know where her son were. And the man who shot him weren't no law. | 7:25 |
Leslie Brown | Do people know who shot him? | 7:35 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | They did know who shot him. | 7:36 |
Leslie Brown | Who shot him? | 7:37 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I'm going to say [indistinct 00:07:43] Martin, up there in Tillery. | 7:41 |
Leslie Brown | Why did he shoot? | 7:45 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | He shot him helping the law look for him. Well, he didn't have no right. He ought to let the law shot. Well, he did one shot. | 7:47 |
Leslie Brown | But nobody knows what he did? | 7:58 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hmm? | 7:59 |
Leslie Brown | But nobody knows what he did? | 8:00 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I did know what he done, but I done forgotten what Keefers had done. I think he had done something to some of them White folks up there in Tillery, I think. Because he's like his ma, he didn't take nothing off nobody. Because his momma didn't take nothing off nobody and she gotten mad with them folks. They had a store, and she wouldn't go in that store and buy nothing out there. She told them. Said, "I never had no more use for—you the lowest there out there." | 8:02 |
Leslie Brown | What store was this? | 8:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Old [indistinct 00:08:34] store up there in Tillery, there in Tillery, the big store. | 8:33 |
Emma W. Dancy | Biggest building that's up there. | 8:38 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | The regular biggest building used to be up there, that was the store they were. | 8:41 |
Leslie Brown | So she wouldn't deal with the store? | 8:47 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, she wouldn't deal—buy nothing out of there other than dried goods, neither there. The dried good and neither the grocery store, nothing. | 8:48 |
Leslie Brown | And they didn't like that? | 8:58 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, you know they didn't. She's 104 years old now. Down there in Scotland Neck rest home. | 9:00 |
Leslie Brown | So she didn't shop at that store, where did she go? | 9:16 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | She went to some more store right over across the street, that's where she done her trade. Linda Parks and Lucia Parks, them was two girls. Then if she wanted anything else and she asked and she didn't have it, she'd get somebody carry to Scotland Neck or Enfield, run and grab her something. Because them people were Mr. Edward Park and Lucia Park didn't have enough of dry goods but the Food Lion. They didn't have no dried good. She got ready to buy her clothes, she go somewhere else. | 9:18 |
Leslie Brown | And where did you shop? | 9:58 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Me? | 9:59 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 10:00 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I shopped at Scotland Neck and sometimes, right on [indistinct 00:10:07]. I go to a different place. And Food Lion in Scotland Neck and a [indistinct 00:10:12] | 10:02 |
Leslie Brown | I wanted to ask you about something that you said the other day at the center. | 10:19 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | What was it? | 10:25 |
Leslie Brown | You were talking about when you were sharecropping, you'd get so much money for groceries. | 10:26 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | You did, that's right. You got some much money for— | 10:43 |
Leslie Brown | And did you have to shop a particular place? | 10:43 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I shopped at that same place where I tell you about that store in Tillery. I always shop there. | 10:44 |
Leslie Brown | Did you have to shop there? | 10:53 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, that was place— | 10:53 |
Leslie Brown | That was the only place— | 10:53 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah. | 10:53 |
Leslie Brown | That's the only place you could shop. That's the only place that would take you? | 10:55 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | See, they were close and didn't have nothing but a mule and a wagon. That's where us went on the mule and the wagon, done our shopping and come back home. | 10:56 |
Leslie Brown | Did the White man you were working for tell you where you had to shop? | 11:06 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-mm. No, he didn't tell you. | 11:09 |
Leslie Brown | Did you he give you cash or did you get credit at the store against your [indistinct 00:11:20]? | 11:14 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | She getting a loan when my husband was farming with him. He gave him a cash money, so much every month. And then if you want anything else, you could tick it up and pay him when you get your money, like when we would close. Or he would tell you, "Now, if you need anything like dried good or anything and you ain't got the money, you could come in here and get them." | 11:20 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | After my husband died, he told me don't I stay and suffer for nothing. Anything I need, if I could come up there I could get it. He would let me have it. And I told Ms. Martin, I said, "Now, you let me—how you know you're going to get your money." We had shoes that are not on lease. Said, "Girl, you ain't never done not paying me for nothing you got." That's the way end up going after he died. | 11:54 |
Leslie Brown | Did you continue to sharecrop with him? | 12:35 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, he had done stopped farming then. | 12:38 |
Leslie Brown | Oh, he had stopped farming? | 12:38 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And I was just working with people by the day when I want to. You see, when he died, us was getting a social security. I wasn't getting mine but I got his. That's how I got along every cent. I had put in for mine, when mine come through, he died. Then they written me I couldn't get mine, I get his. And by getting his I got more, because I put in for mine at 62, and then I got more. They told me, they say, "You not getting nothing in so many months." Well along then, they'll give the man, when he die. Two hundred and what dollars. | 12:41 |
Emma W. Dancy | Had nobody give him a lump sum. | 13:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. After, for the help, if you need the help on the burial. And he died in January, the first day of January. The third day of February, I got that check. Then the next month, I got another check. His check [indistinct 00:13:58]. | 13:33 |
Leslie Brown | Did you— | 13:57 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | They didn't make me suffer after he died, I didn't have to look out for the children, look out of me. But still do something with money. Still do something in money though they helped me out. | 13:57 |
Leslie Brown | Did you and your husband ever own your own land? | 14:25 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-mm. As I say, never owned no own land, never. Just my work sharecrop. | 14:27 |
Leslie Brown | So you sharecropped right up to the time you stopped farming? | 14:37 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. Yeah. | 15:10 |
Leslie Brown | And do you remember what year that was? | 15:10 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I don't even remember when Raymond got hurt. | 15:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | It must have been in the '50s. | 15:10 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | How old is Abrissy? | 15:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | Who? | 15:10 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Arby, Abris. [indistinct 00:15:10]. | 15:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | Arish? | 15:10 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah. | 15:10 |
Emma W. Dancy | She's 32 and she was born in 1960. | 15:10 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's when I stopped farming. | 15:10 |
Leslie Brown | You sharecropped right up until 1960? | 15:10 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. | 15:10 |
Leslie Brown | Do you know anybody who was still sharecropping after 1960? | 15:16 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Oh, a lot of people [indistinct 00:15:22] sharecropping now with all them, plenty of folks working like that now. | 15:21 |
Leslie Brown | Are there people still sharecropping now? | 15:26 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. | 15:28 |
Emma W. Dancy | I think so. I guess so. I don't know. Maybe now they working by the day, I guess they'd make more. | 15:28 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because in my day ain't doing so much laying, lay down and I seen the time you'll be getting no straw field and everything planted in no time [indistinct 00:15:45] laying out. | 15:36 |
Leslie Brown | Did you like to farm? | 15:49 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, my glory, farming. | 15:51 |
Emma W. Dancy | That was your heart. | 15:52 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's my heart in farming. | 15:57 |
Leslie Brown | Did you keep a garden in addition to farming? Did you keep your own garden? | 16:01 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, ma'am. | 16:05 |
Leslie Brown | What was in your garden? | 16:05 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Carrots, cabbage, [indistinct 00:16:12]. | 16:05 |
Emma W. Dancy | String beans. | 16:05 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | String beans, butter bean, tomatoes, garden peas. All of that stuff, I had plenty of that. And then sweet potatoes. | 16:18 |
Emma W. Dancy | White potatoes. | 16:27 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And white potatoes, peas, bean. I had all of that. | 16:28 |
Leslie Brown | How big was— | 16:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | When my husband was a farmer, I didn't have to buy nothing like that, nothing, because he had all the them. When the spring come, he'll set it out and May come, he [indistinct 00:16:46]. | 16:33 |
Leslie Brown | What did you have to buy? | 16:48 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Listen, you had to buy nothing much but sugar, flour and cornflour and stuff like that. Now, his meal, he bought some flour because he had raised no flour one year, had to buy his flour. But Lord, meat kind of thing, he didn't have to buy that because he raised. | 16:50 |
Leslie Brown | What about meat? | 17:13 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | He raised meat. | 17:17 |
Leslie Brown | What kind of meat did you raise? | 17:17 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hog. | 17:17 |
Leslie Brown | Fat hogs? | 17:17 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. | 17:17 |
Leslie Brown | You said you had chickens. You had hogs too? | 17:17 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | We had chicken. We had chicken and hog. He killed one hog for Christmas, [indistinct 00:17:27] he said. Didn't have kill one for—he said for to save until he got ready to kill hog. [indistinct 00:17:36] the last hog. He killed January and February. And he had a smokehouse. Over on the smokehouse with them. | 17:18 |
Leslie Brown | [indistinct 00:17:53]. | 17:50 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | But bigger from there, but bigger from there, like on the other side of that television, about wide from here on back there. And he had that smokehouse hanging with meat you couldn't walk in there. | 17:52 |
Emma W. Dancy | Sausages. | 18:09 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Sausage, all this stuff. It was like they killed the hog, [indistinct 00:18:19] the hog chitlin, the hog feets and all of that. | 18:10 |
Leslie Brown | Can you describe that? What's a hog killing? | 18:24 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hmm? | 18:25 |
Leslie Brown | What's a hog killing? | 18:26 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | A hog chitlins? | 18:29 |
Leslie Brown | Well, hog— | 18:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Hog chitlins. | 18:30 |
Leslie Brown | Yeah, hog chitlins. | 18:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Us call them hog guts, but they're hog— | 18:33 |
Leslie Brown | Chitlins? | 18:35 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Your chitlin, the thing that come out the inside the hog? | 18:35 |
Leslie Brown | Yeah, I know what you mean. I'm asking about something that somebody told me about, the called it a hog killing. | 18:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | You know what they call the hog kill. | 18:50 |
Leslie Brown | When the hogs were slaughtered at the end of the year and there would be a big celebration, do you remember that? Do you remember that? No. | 18:50 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, I don't remember that. | 19:06 |
Leslie Brown | I didn't know. | 19:06 |
Emma W. Dancy | Groups of people used to get together to kill hogs. | 19:07 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I didn't know about that. | 19:08 |
Emma W. Dancy | That's what she talking about. | 19:08 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I that what she told you? Yeah, I remember all of that because my husband used to do—He helped somebody he help here. | 19:08 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. So it'd be groups of people that [indistinct 00:19:22]. | 19:20 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah, yeah. So it don't be hard on one. The ladies and the mens would help. | 19:21 |
Leslie Brown | And what would the men do? | 19:28 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | The men kill them and clean them and gut them. Then the women took care of the chitlins and things, clean them chitlins. And then the next day, you trap the lot, clean the hog feets and things like that. You made the sausage. Because then they had the sausage, round the sausage at home. But the later year, you started taking the care of that, let somebody else grind with this electric sausage grinder. | 19:29 |
Leslie Brown | Were there other things that people would get together for like that? Like corn, dish up corn? A lot of people get together, dish out corn? They did that in some places. | 20:00 |
Emma W. Dancy | But I don't think they did it too much around here. | 20:14 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | They didn't do it so much around here. You do all of your shelling of your own corn. See, that's what my husband done. He'd have his corn in November. | 20:15 |
Emma W. Dancy | The ladies around here, they used to give quiltings. | 20:25 |
Leslie Brown | Oh, you had quilting? | 20:26 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm, they quilted together. They had quilts. Three or four womens come over and help you quilt, then they got ready and you went on over there and help them like that. | 20:27 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | People did nothing like buy no blankets and comforters, things like that. Making them. Buying no sheets. You had white cloth, and they'd take that white cloth and make sheets. When you first get it, first wash end up to yellow. You wash them til it gets to white, it's bleaching. That's one thing that people didn't had to stand in the store for, getting all that stuff. Then the people sold a whole lot and made it selling cloth and things, but the cloth. But you see, now you don't see no cloth. And if you see any cloth, you've got to pay god knows how much for it. You've got to buy everything now all ready-made. | 20:38 |
Leslie Brown | So you farmed and you cooked and you raised children. | 21:22 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's right. | 21:26 |
Leslie Brown | And you sewed. | 21:30 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, I sewed. I sewed with my hand. I didn't have no machine, I just sewed with my hand. | 21:34 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 21:35 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. | 21:35 |
Leslie Brown | And you got meat ready, and you tended your garden. | 21:37 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's right. | 21:43 |
Leslie Brown | And what else did you do? Did I miss anything? And you went to church. | 21:46 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, I went to church. | 21:50 |
Leslie Brown | You were a mother in the church. | 21:52 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah, I was in the church [indistinct 00:21:59]. | 21:52 |
Emma W. Dancy | Through the neighborhood, helping peoples when they were sick because— | 21:52 |
Leslie Brown | You helped the sick? | 22:04 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah. | 22:05 |
Emma W. Dancy | Mm-hmm. | 22:05 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | People would send for me [indistinct 00:22:11] sicken. Had something like we had a hernia somewhere. They got sent for me to come to rub them. And I go and rub them. | 22:17 |
Leslie Brown | You go and rub them? | 22:22 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. I go get camomile grease and everything and rub them. And then the next day, they'll send for me again and tell me how I help them. Then they carried it around "If such and such a thing happened to you, you call Sue and go and say that. That women knows something." There were old people—I'm not helping those people, I don't really like to—I loved the old people. I love to been with old people then been with the people that are my age. All the old people were just faulting me. I'd get mad when—I was like, "How come they're faulting me?" (laughs) | 22:25 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | "Every time I see them, someone comes something at me. I ain't their age." My mother would tell me, "Well, your time around. Go and see what they want." I'd go there, see what they want. Tell me. "I hurt this place and I hurt the other. Rub me, Sue." I'd go on and rub her. Mother said, "What'd they want with you?" I said, "Said they were hurting and want me to rub them." I said, "I'm going to catch all these folks' pain rubbing." Mother said, "No, you just pray to the Lord you won't catch." My mother said, "You child got one good had for rubbing." Mother said "She do?" "Yes, I don't care when she come in and rub me, I get better and go do what I ought to do." So Ma said, "They're just saying that." (laughs) | 23:05 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, sir, you sent for me yesterday, and that was the old lady I stayed around [indistinct 00:24:19]. She'd get ready to go to church on Saturday. She'd come down to my house Friday. "Sue?" I said, "Ma'am?" I said, "What do you come down here for Ms. Appleby?" "I'll come at you to go with me and walk me to [indistinct 00:24:42] tomorrow." I said, "Ms. Appleby, I just made tea. I ain't going with you." She said, "Yes, you will going with me." So she'd leave there and say, "Sue, I'll be back down to your house such-and-such a time tomorrow morning, and you be ready when I get you." I said, "Ms. Appleby, didn't I tell you I won't going." She said, "You going. I ain't not think about what you says, so you going." | 24:03 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I get up that morning, do what I had to do. She'd get down, get dressed. We'd go. She tell you that, "Didn't I tell you you were going?" I said, "Ms. Appleby, you old, I wouldn't go with you." "You're going [indistinct 00:25:28]. I ain't never asked you to do nothing for me what you didn't do it." She got me like that until she got til she couldn't go to church. I told Ms. Appleby, "I'm tired of you." | 25:05 |
Leslie Brown | Did you tell her that? | 25:44 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yeah, I told Ms. Appleby, "I'm tired of you." | 25:46 |
Emma W. Dancy | You're always speaking to her how she speak to people. | 25:49 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm. They didn't care what I said, and then didn't pay me a bit more mind and nothing at [indistinct 00:25:58]. He said he know that I was going. I told him I was going. He said he know that I was going. She'd come back to my house and me and her [indistinct 00:26:04] on through the wood and going up there to get to the highway, going on the mountains. "You're going to church tomorrow." I said, "Yeah. I know I'm going because Raymond's going." My husband belongs to that church and I [indistinct 00:26:20]. | 25:55 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And so I said, "Raymond say he going tomorrow, he ain't going today." "I want to go today, and you're going to make me." "I want to go tomorrow, and you're going make me." I said, "Ms. Appleby, I'm not your daughter." She said, "That's all right, you're going." I get out and go [indistinct 00:26:46]. And then he got sick, he got ready to die. Told me anything in her house that I want, I get it. Said, "Because you've been good to me. You talked back to me but you've been good and I ain't pay you no—" | 26:16 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, all right. | 27:05 |
Leslie Brown | Who were the people that you respected? | 27:08 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Who were the people I respect? | 27:11 |
Leslie Brown | Yeah. | 27:11 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I respect all the people. You take me right now, I respect young people. If the young people tell me something, I would do it [indistinct 00:27:24] right. These say [indistinct 00:27:27] and I look [indistinct 00:27:31]. I listen to you and I respect young people and old people. | 27:12 |
Leslie Brown | But were there any people that you looked up to more than others? Were there people you thought were more important or who were special or influential? People who were heroes? | 27:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Who I thought were special? | 27:53 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 27:55 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Now, I would tell you who I thought was special, my momma and my father. I thought my grandma and granddaddy were the specialist people that I know. | 27:58 |
Leslie Brown | So it's family? | 28:09 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | That's right. That's the fact. I love all my people, but them are special. They're my special crowd. | 28:10 |
Leslie Brown | And why were they special? | 28:20 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because they raised me and took care of me and learned me what I learnt today, that means they were special. Because [indistinct 00:28:32] for them, I'd of never got where I am today. Never would have got there. If the old man, who I tell you I hate, if he had to whoop me, I don't know where I'd have been, nowhere. He had to whoop me like he whooped me and my mother. Because I didn't bother anybody but I [indistinct 00:28:58] and love to mess with children. | 28:21 |
Emma W. Dancy | [indistinct 00:29:01]. | 28:59 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And if any bothered the grown folks or what, if I'd know they didn't treat me right, I just tell them what I thought about them and just kept going about my business. He would get angry about it. I said, "Well, I weren't bothering them and they're bothering me. I just told them what I thought of them. I told them to stay in their place and I was going to stay in mine," and just kept on walking. He'd tell me sometimes, "You're not to say that tale." I said, "They all not to say to me what they said. Had nothing to with me. I wasn't bothering them. I was in the road, I wasn't bothering them." Now, that's what I said. | 29:01 |
Leslie Brown | No, I have [indistinct 00:29:36]. | 29:35 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, no, wait. Wait. | 29:37 |
Leslie Brown | One more question. What kind of advice would you give young people today? | 29:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Today? | 29:46 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 29:49 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Advice I would give, give love and treat people right and love all people just like they did their mother. All people were the mother and father just like my mother. And then stay out of trouble. These folks are messing with dope, don't bother them. If you're finding you dope, get away from her and don't go round, because that's what got the world today like it is. Really, and be chill. | 29:52 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | When I take the children, I might teach them something good. I ain't going to teach them nothing bad. | 30:30 |
Leslie Brown | Do you have different advice for women, for young women? | 30:35 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I teach them too. I teach them young women and even I teach the old. (laughs) | 30:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I tell old ones sometime (laughs) I see them doing things. I said, "Now, you know good and well, you didn't have no business doing that." | 30:46 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And some of these women here, old women wearing short dresses like the young. I said, "Do you know what somebody need to do with you?" They said, "No." | 31:01 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I said, "Take you right down in the water in your house and give you a good whooping because you know you ain't—" "What can you say to the children? And everybody wearing the same thing." I said, "No, I ain't wearing it. Do like I do." | 31:12 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | They look at me. "You think you somebody's mama. What you think you is?" | 31:31 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | "I don't think, I know more and I even telling you right. Don't you stand up here in my face, like I don't know anything or else I'll be hit you." | 31:32 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | "You is a bad women." I said, "No, I ain't a bad women, just a straight woman." That's what I'd do. | 31:39 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And then the young women who would run around there, and I seen them doing anything like they ain't go no business, I go right to them. I ain't going to nobody, I'm going to them. | 31:47 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I seen she do something the other day. I said, "Don't do that. Don't let me see you do it no more." I said, "Because I'll tell you right." | 31:59 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Somebody may be married and get around courting. I said. "You got a husband? You done told a lie. When you married, what did you say?" "No, where you getting that from?" | 32:11 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I said, "I see this here. What I see, I know about it" I said, "I don't want to see it and I don't want to hear nobody say nothing about it because I'm coming to you again." | 32:12 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | I said, "You know I wouldn't tell the husband." I say, "I ain't going to tell your husband, but I'm going to stay on your back til you straight to the front of me. But if you do anything behind my back and I don't see, that's ain't got nothing to do with you." | 32:33 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | "As long as I see you, I'm going to say something to you about it because I know it ain't right." | 32:45 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Because when they married, what did they say? You got to be a wife to him, he got to be a husband to her, 'saking everybody for the one person. | 32:52 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Well, I did. I told lot of them that, a whole lot of them. | 33:08 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | And so I tell her. I said, "Well, now I met you." I said, "Now what are you seeing in that line what I done wrong?" She said, "Well, I can't tell nothing's wrong. I never seen you do nothing wrong like that in my life. Every since I knowed you, you were Sue, nobody but Sue. You meet anybody, you meet them with a smile. Ain't never look like you were mad." I said, "Well, her husband can't do like that. I guess that's the only way you can get along through the world." | 33:14 |
Leslie Brown | Do you have a favorite quote from the Bible? | 33:56 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Mm-hmm? | 33:58 |
Leslie Brown | Do you have a favorite verse from the Bible? | 33:59 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Favorite verse from the Bible? | 34:13 |
Leslie Brown | Mm-hmm. | 34:13 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Geez, I don't know if I really do. | 34:13 |
Leslie Brown | Do you have a favorite song? | 34:13 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | This Little Light of Mine, that's my song. | 34:13 |
Leslie Brown | That's your song? | 34:18 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | Yes, sir. That song is mine. I can't think of the—I don't know what they did to us [indistinct 00:34:25] talking about. | 34:19 |
Emma W. Dancy | Well, you're getting [indistinct 00:34:25]. | 34:25 |
Susie Nevilles Weathersbee | No, I can't think of it. | 34:25 |
Leslie Brown | Well, that's all right. But I got your favorite song on tape, so— | 34:26 |
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