Holdbrooks, Terry - short clip - PrisonerAbuse
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- | Did you see any of the detainees mistreated | 0:00 |
while you were there? | 0:04 | |
- | Yeah, a number of times. | 0:06 |
Seeing a detainee having their hand stepped on | 0:09 | |
or their head stepped on or kicked | 0:11 | |
or extra kicks or punches being thrown in during an ERF, | 0:13 | |
perhaps having their head pushed to the toilet | 0:18 | |
having it flushed a number of times, walking | 0:19 | |
through the interrogation would be taking individuals | 0:22 | |
for interrogation, you'd see what was going | 0:25 | |
on in other interrogation rooms. | 0:26 | |
So, you know, occasionally I'd see individuals | 0:28 | |
in stress positions or rooms with the air conditioner set | 0:30 | |
at 40 degrees or individuals would soil themselves | 0:34 | |
from being these positions for so long. | 0:36 | |
Our lieutenants who were in charge of camp operations | 0:39 | |
whenever an earth would take place, they were responsible | 0:43 | |
with coming out, trying to talk situations down. | 0:46 | |
And if it came down to an ERF was going to happen | 0:48 | |
they would initially spray OSI spray into the cell. | 0:51 | |
We were taught, and what was trained to us was to | 0:54 | |
just make a simple S or Z shaped motion | 0:57 | |
across the face with the OSI spray. | 0:59 | |
I can't think of how many times I saw an entire can used, | 1:03 | |
if not two cans used. | 1:06 | |
And it was really just an overkill and then afterwards | 1:08 | |
you got five angry men running in there | 1:11 | |
and slamming you down, beating you up, | 1:13 | |
making it difficult for you to breathe, putting in kicks | 1:15 | |
and punches using your head to open the door, et cetera. | 1:18 | |
Yeah, there was, there was certainly abuse that took place. | 1:21 | |
- | Do you know why that abuse took place? | 1:24 |
Were there reasons for it? | 1:26 | |
- | As primitive of an idea as I can possibly think of | 1:29 |
it was really just Americans feeling | 1:32 | |
that they were getting one back for America. | 1:33 | |
A lot of these soldiers really believed | 1:36 | |
that these people responsible for 9/11. | 1:38 | |
I don't know how individuals are responsible for 9/11, | 1:40 | |
pretty much burned up in an inferno that day | 1:43 | |
but in any case, you know | 1:45 | |
they went down there with these views | 1:47 | |
and these feelings and this animosity and anger | 1:49 | |
and this was a very non-constructive way | 1:51 | |
for them to get it out. | 1:55 | |
But that that's how they chose to get it out, | 1:57 | |
that and recreational drinking. | 1:58 | |
ERF teams were pretty much just | 2:00 | |
five guards and the camp supervisor. | 2:02 | |
We have one individual from DOC department of corrections, | 2:05 | |
basically just the operations of the camp. | 2:11 | |
You know, these individuals oversaw who was moving to where | 2:14 | |
who was on what block, who was in an interrogation center. | 2:17 | |
They were in charge of all movement. | 2:19 | |
One individual from there would come up with a video camera | 2:23 | |
to video cam the process officer for liability purposes. | 2:25 | |
I can't tell you how many times, you know, | 2:29 | |
forgot to put a tape in or forgot to hit the record button | 2:31 | |
or I hit the record button and there was a tape in | 2:34 | |
but I forgot to take the cap off. | 2:36 | |
- | You're personally saying this? | 2:38 |
- | No, no, no, no. | 2:39 |
These were the excuses that were given | 2:40 | |
as to why the footage wasn't obtained. | 2:42 | |
- | Why do you think they didn't film the ERF? | 2:44 |
- | I would imagine they were probably told | 2:46 |
by somebody in their command not the film it, | 2:48 | |
or if perhaps it was too violent | 2:51 | |
of a situation or something we didn't want to | 2:54 | |
have evidence of then, you know, make this disappear. | 2:55 | |
I wouldn't imagine that that would be a far-fetched idea. | 2:59 |
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